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2020-09-02 02:42
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020

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2020-09-04 15:52
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336
Quoting F7sus4
Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j.


You brought it on yourselves, guys, didn't you? :D First draft of rules was both friendly and specific on the subject - what Jackasser said, basically ;)
2020-09-04 16:12
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639
Are we allowed to release our tracks with specific instructions? Like having to throw a blanket over the speakers before hitting that play button to compensate for the missing lowpass filter? Couldn't find anything about blankets in the rules :(
2020-09-04 16:15
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
I have to agree: Fesus just gives 5-6's to his competitors material on CSDb in general, but writes ok stuff about it, whilst he hits them in their back? It's quite lame from a guy who does ok stuff himself? He is on my future shit-list onwards.
2020-09-04 16:29
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1791
Quote: They do comply. That use case is explicitly allowed:

"No testbit or zero waveform allowed ___outside___ routine's hardrestart phase"


Though the last comment was "Ok, so here is yet another update. Zero waveforms, or $00, is not allowed in this compo. Furthermore, hard restart is not allowed, and the only bits allowed in this compo are $20, $21, $22, and $23."

I think it's quite fresh that it's so restricted. Will force people to do unorthodox sound design. :)

And you still have up to 16-speed to play with. Not too limiting IMO.
2020-09-04 16:42
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409
I miss those halcyon days, when testbit was allowed at start of note. Can we go back to them, please?
2020-09-04 16:58
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117
Interesting why rules clarification requires running fuss commentary.

Quoting JackAsser
No testbit or zero waveform allowed ___outside___ routine's hardrestart phase"


Not all trackers (and their players) have such thing as "hardrestart routine". There are some where you call proper bits manually.

This leads to question: how (when running an already compiled tune) will it be possible to know whether the tune is actually hardrestarting ADSR+oscilloscope using player's internal routine and when manually?

There are quite a bunch of interesting tricks to do with test-bit and zero-wave in high-multispeed tunes.

I do believe the question is valid for the purpose of the compo and there's no need for any ad hominem bullshit.
2020-09-04 17:03
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
So go do a tune, you Ad Hoc dude :D
2020-09-04 17:07
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117
Quote: So go do a tune, you Ad Hoc dude :D

I probably will, once we have rules set in stone. What is wrong in asking about the details, remind me please?
2020-09-04 17:15
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
In a stone? Wow, back to the relics? Well, Stop pretending you are something you are not and stop voting cowardly as I've seen you've doing for quite some time and just pretend you understand a competion when it's at. Simple as that. You could be a hero, for the moment you are not :D
2020-09-04 17:20
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117
It looks like you missed what this topic is about quite terribly.
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