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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020
What is this? Count me in! |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1791 |
From the entry: Filterless $21 Compo 2020
Quote:Submitted by Eric Dobek [PM] on 7 September 2020
Because no HR complicates things, HR will be allowed again. Also, still keep in mind $20, $21, $22, and $23 are the only waveforms allowed. Time will tell if this will be the last rule change or not.
So I assume this from the original post is valid again?
Quote:No testbit or zero waveform allowed outside routine's hardrestart phase (don't put it in the wavetable or the patterns of your song)
... and I'm all for not being too strict on the entries. Just keep very close to the spirit of the event. The entries so far are fantastic! |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
That's actually tricky because...
Player's routine can use HR but you can only use $20, $21, $22, $23 inside HR ;) |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1791 |
Quote: That's actually tricky because...
Player's routine can use HR but you can only use $20, $21, $22, $23 inside HR ;)
Kind of ambiguous, but sure it can be interpreted as only envelope reset/restart is allowed, no phase reset on oscillators. It could be argued that HR actually means the phase reset part of it though.
Ultimately I stand by my request of not being too strict with the judgement of entries and entrants keeping very close to the spirit of the compo. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
I wouldn't be strict about it as well. It wasn't difficult for me to comply 100%, using GT routine, but different players might offer differ solutions. Besides, it's quite easy to judge if any restarts were used deliberately for special effects or just forced by player. |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quoting JammerBesides, it's quite easy to judge if any restarts were used deliberately for special effects or just forced by player.
True. However, it is often problematic to translate common sense into inviolable rules. To sum up, the whole discussion (completely unnecessarily emotional at some points) was solely about that.
On the other hand, creative test-bit abuse usage would probably be more beneficial sound-wise with $11 waveform rather than $21. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Indeed, sawtooth and testbit aren't that radical together. But still very interesting as it sounds like AY envelope modulation pretty much :D |
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Thunder.Bird
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 110 |
Could someone please confirm my thoughts, that all these SID songs will run on partially broken SID chips (where Filter settings won't work anymore)?
What I'm asking is:
What could benefit of these filterless SID tunes?
Is it the C64 DTV or just for fun? Could this lead to another invention of sound by SID? |
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Eric Dobek
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2020
Posts: 18 |
Quote: Could someone please confirm my thoughts, that all these SID songs will run on partially broken SID chips (where Filter settings won't work anymore)?
What I'm asking is:
What could benefit of these filterless SID tunes?
Is it the C64 DTV or just for fun? Could this lead to another invention of sound by SID?
Perhaps, but I don't have a C64 on me. If someone would be willing to do such a thing, that would make for a pretty interesting video. Since the compo finishes tomorrow, I'll go make a couple more posts. Should have a voting sheet up soon. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Fuck, I missed voting form! :O Now it's over :/ |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
Oh wait, there was only 5 days for voting?
Damn, I've missed the compo deadline *and* the voting deadline :(
continues to work on an out of compo tune at a glacial pace |
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