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Turtle
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GoatTracker v2.0 beta
That's a great one!!!!
Cadaver, didn't I hear you denying any activities in that direction a few weeks ago in an other thread.
I guess this major version release will make a lot composers more than happy. All points on my wishlist are marked as accomplished....
Now it's time to start a new topic of tips&tricks with this release.
Thanx,
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
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OK, I just reinstalled VICE (the Mac port isn't particularly native (x11) and two years ago was pretty buggy), and the hi-hat(?) is still noticeably off, but the drums sound much much better.
I did use to VICE (and regular transfers to real c64!) for instrument repair at LCP2004 once I discovered that all the instruments I'd been testing under power64 were broken. I know now it was the ADSR delay bug, but at the time I wasn't familiar with it, and just resorted to a fast attack and several gated frames.
*tries to feel motivated about launching virtual PC*
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: VICE? Sidplay/W?
or Hoxs64..
Personally I would not recommend Sidplay/W.
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Anyway, I hope that people finally start to compose their killer tunes in 25Hz mode instead of multispeed. :)))))) |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
"Man's got to know his limitations" - Harry Calahan.
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1293 |
Quote: Just a short sample (done right now):
http://www.rogepost.com/n/9922518421
Use something else than sidplay2w to listen. :)
Jammer, you have to use gateofftimer "81". Wavetable will be started directly with the desired waveform on frame 0. (without the $09)
Anyway, filters doesn't start at frame 0, so you must use a few tricks to make filtersounds not buggy.
'nie ucz ojca dzieci robic'
which translates literally as:
don't teach father how to make kids :D
i really know every trick with hardrestart in gt, the way i've done it in my example is strictly controlled as it was my purpose to make it sound just like that :P i planned to make the most realistic 25hz snare possible and probably accomplished the mission :P
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Raf
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343 |
said by the most modest scener over all the world ;-)
www.vulture.c64.org |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: Just a short sample (done right now):
http://www.rogepost.com/n/9922518421
Use something else than sidplay2w to listen. :)
Jammer, you have to use gateofftimer "81". Wavetable will be started directly with the desired waveform on frame 0. (without the $09)
Anyway, filters doesn't start at frame 0, so you must use a few tricks to make filtersounds not buggy.
Nice..
I wouldn't have guessed that this is half speed, but the "quality" doesn't surprise me either. Since the ADSR bug causes a gate on delay of roughly one and a half frames, one can still make the usual short initial noise etc..
What's the catch with SidPlay/w, why is it "bad"? |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
... because it has (IMO) an extremely low quality audio output. :-D
1. 6581 filters: where is the distortion?
2. 6581/8580: there is something missing in the noise waveform.
3. 8580: Damn, resonance is too low in reSID. (it's the same in GT)
4. Emulation: Where is the high quality mode? (resample, interpolation)
And it seems that the emulation isn't that cycle exact (sometimes) like the real thing.
Anyway, here an example:
http://www.rogepost.com/n/2206993644
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Raf
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343 |
then use
x64 -vsid <filename.sid>
;-) - you have control over all the params using additional cmd line switches.
www.vulture.c64.org |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1293 |
laxity >> sidplay 2/w has totally screwed up hi pass filter. instead of 'ssssss' you hear 'shhhhh'. above $80 there's no difference in cutoff at all. i personally recommend sidplay 2 for winamp, it sounds practically like goat tracker and vice (however i've noticed minor adsr bugs in my one tune but still it's better than sidplay 2/w). moreover, 8580 combined waves sound much better with sidplay 2 for winamp.
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: laxity >> sidplay 2/w has totally screwed up hi pass filter. instead of 'ssssss' you hear 'shhhhh'. above $80 there's no difference in cutoff at all. i personally recommend sidplay 2 for winamp, it sounds practically like goat tracker and vice (however i've noticed minor adsr bugs in my one tune but still it's better than sidplay 2/w). moreover, 8580 combined waves sound much better with sidplay 2 for winamp.
... or a real 8580 :)
@raf
which are the additional parameters? What can be changed?
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