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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Event id #2868 : Nonstandard Time Signature Compo 2019
Vote sheet send. Would really prefer a "ranked" voting system. I always feel if I judge every tune by itself there's too little room to differentiate, but if I try to make votes comparing the tunes (what I usually do) some get a lower vote than they'd deserve "standalone". Hm... First world problems ;-)
Anyway: So much awesome music! <3 Great job by everyone! |
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Mibri
Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214 |
I've voted too. Great, great compo, this one. Keygen... is my tip for 1st place but we'll see what happens! |
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Shogoon
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 18 |
Yeah! IMHO Randall’s „Keygen 2 your heart” is most beautiful piece in this competition:). |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
Quote: Yeah! IMHO Randall’s „Keygen 2 your heart” is most beautiful piece in this competition:).
Full ack! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3058 |
Quote: Vote sheet send. Would really prefer a "ranked" voting system. I always feel if I judge every tune by itself there's too little room to differentiate, but if I try to make votes comparing the tunes (what I usually do) some get a lower vote than they'd deserve "standalone". Hm... First world problems ;-)
Anyway: So much awesome music! <3 Great job by everyone!
By ranking you mean sorting? Coz I also preffer that. Point system is necessary for parties as there is not time and space to sort tunes around (maybe expcept if it votes vere collected through app with sortable list of tunes (which would rock btw.). Anyway when is the deadline? I would like to arrange listenig / voting session for myself. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2982 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_preferential_voting, i guess. I have seen something like that at parties, though, for all compos. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
If anyone needs a disk with all entries for real machine [sorry @ some MSL guys that I exomized your releases (not you Jammer, you're good!) - I hope it is not part of your musical concept that your tunes are 100-200 BLOCKS huge ;-) ]:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/nstc2019.d64
And people, don't overlook that Karmic prepared an external votesheet:
https://forms.gle/GscjTUKbPEHDeQ2s6 |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Quoting Krillhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_preferential_voting, i guess. I have seen something like that at parties, though, for all compos.
If I'm not mistaken, Vasco from Atari scene, who organized last year's Lost Party, used this system during compos. It was really confusing for majority of party people and cumbersome in handling. It surely requires people being fully focused ;) |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
Must admit I was momentarily confused by the name of spider-j's disk image - are these NTSC fixed versions or... oh wait, nSTc :D
Thanks for prepping that.
(speaking of, I should probably rename the hsvc folder on my laptop sometime.. I'm not really dyslexic, honest.. ) |
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Mibri
Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214 |
Congratulations on the win, Linus! Coming 2nd was a big surprise to me - really not sure that I deserve it, but I’ll take it! Thanks to all musicians, voters, and Karmic for a great compo. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Quite a revolutionary results, compared to csdb! :D Congrats to the winner and the runnerup! \o/ |
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Shogoon
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 18 |
Grats to all the participants and to the worthy winner. Three yeses goes to Randall for his Keygen - beautiful piece of music (cmon guys, really, 9th place?). |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 466 |
i am happy with the fact that my three faves consitute the top three. also, 25 sheets is quite a result. |
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Mibri
Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214 |
Agree that Keygen... should have placed much higher! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3058 |
Ah, I forgot to use sheet, but all in all I think it wouldn't affect the results much anyway. Congrats to winners and runners up. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
Wonderfully varied entries, and my top nine were all excellent.
Keygen was indeed technically great, but there were half a dozen more engaging tunes IMO - I guess my heart has different combination ;)
Mibri, you were in my top three!
One of these years I'll get my act together about an entry, but in the mean time thank you all for the music, and thanks Karmic for organising! |
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Shogoon
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 18 |
@ChristopherJam Technical value? - Nope, I'm talking about musical values here like: rhythm, melody, harmony, phrasing, and logical structure - these are ingredients that I personally take into consideration, when I'm forced to give points from 1 to 10 in music competition. You cannot value other people's taste, but those elements of music - oh dear Lord, yes you can and you should:) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
What a great compo this year! :-)
While "keygen 2 your heart" is also my personal favorite from this compo I'd like to remind everyone: in the end it's all about the voters taste. And keep in mind: when you say something like "should have ranked way higher" you also say (in the subtext) that others didn't deserve their place (?). At least I always felt so, when I got a higher rank in a compo than the "real good musicians".
I'm always happy when I get one of the last places, so I don't have to feel ashamed to "steal" a good place from a good musician.
But to be honest: I somehow I don't think there are "good" or "bad" musicians left in C64 scene, just "different" musicians making "different" styles. Some may call this "cirkle jerk", but I don't know - when I check competitions from 10-20 years ago there were really "bad" entries - today there are none or the "bad" entries are "forced" to be bad.
Anyway: I'm drunk an babbling stupid stuff :-) Congratz to everyone and thanks to Karmic for organizing!
Love!
spider. |
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Mibri
Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214 |
Quote: What a great compo this year! :-)
While "keygen 2 your heart" is also my personal favorite from this compo I'd like to remind everyone: in the end it's all about the voters taste. And keep in mind: when you say something like "should have ranked way higher" you also say (in the subtext) that others didn't deserve their place (?). At least I always felt so, when I got a higher rank in a compo than the "real good musicians".
I'm always happy when I get one of the last places, so I don't have to feel ashamed to "steal" a good place from a good musician.
But to be honest: I somehow I don't think there are "good" or "bad" musicians left in C64 scene, just "different" musicians making "different" styles. Some may call this "cirkle jerk", but I don't know - when I check competitions from 10-20 years ago there were really "bad" entries - today there are none or the "bad" entries are "forced" to be bad.
Anyway: I'm drunk an babbling stupid stuff :-) Congratz to everyone and thanks to Karmic for organizing!
Love!
spider.
Sure, I'm largely on board with this, particularly the bit about there being no 'good' or 'bad' scene musicians, only musicians doing different things, albeit with varying degrees of success.
Let me modify my statement about 'Keygen...', then: I was surprised that it didn't rank higher - I'll happily take away the 'should have'. I'm not about to try and start policing anyone's tastes.
It was a tough compo for sure, loads of great entries which I continue to enjoy (including yours, Spidey). Perhaps the competitive element of scene compos (logically the principal element?!) can make things a bit spiky and possibly contentious from time to time, but I'm really quite sure that it's necessary; if we're all trying to blow each other away then it makes it better for the listeners and advances the craft! As long as it's done with a sporting and comradely spirit. :) So, even though the ranking is decided after the tunes have all been released, in a way I would consider the ranking as the means to great music's end... The music is all that matters really. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3058 |
Word, Mibri. Word! |
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musikdusche
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 6 |
Holy Blip!
I didn't even expect to catch a place in the upper half of the ranking! In between such high quality competitors / fellow combatants I really have to say "Thank You" to everyone for composing and listening!
Happy Holidays everyone! |
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musikdusche
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 6 |
Aargh! And of course thanks to Karmic for organizing this awesome event in the first place! |
