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2005-10-15 08:59
Bamu®
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Trains: by Mauchly Bill



Yesterday I was listen through a lot of old SID tunes.....
and found "trains" by Bill Mauchly.
I really was surprised how good it sounds for 1983.
there is:

- a trendy filter bass
- vibrato
- melody slides

There is even another SID by him: "Aerobics".
2005-10-16 12:45
Bamu®
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Hmmmm, nobody interested to listen these tunes? :=

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/GAMES/A-F/Aerobics.sid

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/GAMES/S-Z/Trains.sid

Ok, here my question: Which tools the author used to compose these tunes?
2005-10-16 13:13
tlr

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Quote: Hmmmm, nobody interested to listen these tunes? :=

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/GAMES/A-F/Aerobics.sid

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/GAMES/S-Z/Trains.sid

Ok, here my question: Which tools the author used to compose these tunes?


Really nice! Especially the Aerobics ones. Check the game at http://www.c64.com/. The dancing 80's aerobics babe is too cool. :)
2005-10-16 16:58
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
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Woah, those tunes *are* pretty cool. I especially like Aerobics tune 5. Thanks for pointing them out, Nata!
2005-10-16 18:34
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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Intidelideed.. groovy earobics music. quite ahead of its time, sid technically. There's also an ambient song.. cool.
2005-10-18 21:49
carlsson

Registered: Nov 2002
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I believe it was around 1984 people begun experimenting more with SID. You mention the filter bass and vibrato in those Spinnaker games. Epyx released Breakdance in 1984, which may be one of the first musics to use combined waveforms ($51 if I'm not mistaken). I think Ghostbusters also is a fine piece of music from that era, in particular the intro.

Probably programmers and musicians were the same people, so he wrote his own routine and inserted the music by hand.

By the way, is this the same Bill Mauchly that was a sound engineer, guitarist and Ensoniq Chief Scientist? If so, Google tells that he is the son of one of those who invented ENIAC.

2005-10-19 07:48
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
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My guess would be that he edited the music in an assembler like most of us did back then.
2005-10-19 11:34
Soren

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Some of us even used mc-monitors, before we found out about assemblers ;-)
2005-10-19 12:43
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
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yeah thanks for pointing out those sids!
they don't really sound like they were composed 20 years ago, damn!
if there's more of this oldschool stuff like this please let us know ;)
cheers!
2005-10-23 10:03
Laxity

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Quote: Some of us even used mc-monitors, before we found out about assemblers ;-)


Now you say it.. I actually never composed in an assembler myself.. Always used an MC-monitor too :) .. Thought you were too "young" to've been doing that, Jeff.. Hehe ;)
2005-10-23 10:27
Soren

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@Laxity:
Nah, I'm just a bit younger than you (from '74), I just didn't enter the scene until around 1990/1991, but did code and compose before this... I actually composed my first music on a single-voice computer (Lambda Marathon Power...bla bla something) in the mid-eighties. :-)
It was very simple crap, but still :-)
2005-10-23 11:51
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
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bill mauchly beeing a musician and sound engineer probably helped there too. =)
2005-10-24 08:52
Laxity

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Quote: @Laxity:
Nah, I'm just a bit younger than you (from '74), I just didn't enter the scene until around 1990/1991, but did code and compose before this... I actually composed my first music on a single-voice computer (Lambda Marathon Power...bla bla something) in the mid-eighties. :-)
It was very simple crap, but still :-)


Yak :) Lambda!.. Remember those. Green rubber keys, right?
2005-10-24 09:20
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
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yep, really ugly computer and you could very easily reset it by accident. :-)
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