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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
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c64 orchestra (very first rehearsal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzE1E6zIEFQ
Sorry if it was already posted.
more info:
http://www.myspace.com/c64orchestra |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Oh shivers! Those renditions have extraordinary drive. I look forward for the outcome. FABULOUS! |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
I hope they come to England. SOOOO awesome! |
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DRAX
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Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 224 |
Damn, the arrangement of IK is fucking great... would like to hear that played by a very big orchestra... |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1993 |
Last night I saw Malmö Symphony Orchestra playing a C64-Medly on a rather big stage with 2000+ people watching. Some of it was quite something, especially the C64 renditions. More modern game music was rather boring though since that kind of music already is meant for symphonies. |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 252 |
Wonderful! NEED to see these live. |
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Spinball
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 87 |
can´t wait to here Supremacy played with real instruments.
of course they will need some big and loud percussions... |
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Registered: Jan 2006
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Well, they are good renditions, I liked most of them. But International Karate .. I kept waiting for the awesome heavy guitar solo part that actually I think is the most exciting part of the C64 version of the tune -- but it never appeared .. so I was rather heavily disappointed in that one. Well, maybe they will have it in the final version, who knows.. But sigh anyways.
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Funny.. IK was my favorite.. Brilliant harmonics, great orchestration.. Way to go, Rob ;) |
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the_JinX
Registered: May 2006
Posts: 31 |
I've got my ticket.. I'm going to Apeldoorn.. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
anyone going can please take there a vidcam ? :) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1047 |
just checked the site again, the performance will be held in Amsterdam too on the 29th of sep in the westergasfabriek (perfect location). but I'm not sure if it'll feature the same type of afterparty as in Apeldoorn on the 22nd....
anyone know? |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 492 |
http://www.crossmediaweek.nl
Sure Westergasfabriek is a better location, but it's part of a big conference event. If you don't mind paying about 600 euros, it's definately a better alternative ;)
(it's really worth the money though, e.g. Peter Greenaway doing a vj set, some Wu-Tang Clan member performing etc.) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1047 |
its only 17.50 for the evening program though... |
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Registered: Jan 2006
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Well I think the IK was the least faithful to the original. I think the c64 versions of all Hubbard tunes are much better and actually energetic .. those orchestral versions seem to lack the 'spirit' or 'energy' of the originals, the excitement and 'wow'-factor, u know.. hard to explain. The Jeroen Tel tunes seemed to be more faithful, but even there some melody and effects were skipped. Maybe there will be a drummer with the orchestra, making up for some of these things. I surely hope they will insert that neat 'heavy guitar solo'-part of IK that is the best part of the tune.. Otherwise it's just a slow and boring remix of 'Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence'. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1047 |
Krill, it was the first rehearsel though ;)
anyway, just booked my tickets for friday, so, see you all there.
Burglar |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
Quote: Well I think the IK was the least faithful to the original. I think the c64 versions of all Hubbard tunes are much better and actually energetic .. those orchestral versions seem to lack the 'spirit' or 'energy' of the originals, the excitement and 'wow'-factor, u know.. hard to explain. The Jeroen Tel tunes seemed to be more faithful, but even there some melody and effects were skipped. Maybe there will be a drummer with the orchestra, making up for some of these things. I surely hope they will insert that neat 'heavy guitar solo'-part of IK that is the best part of the tune.. Otherwise it's just a slow and boring remix of 'Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence'.
I think Hubbard is one of the most overrated plagarists of all time.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
Hubbard is overhyped, but calling him a plagarist is too harsh. Then you must call most of the musicians, gfxmans, and coders one too.
I've only seen the preview video, but according to it I agree with Monk, just like the case with most of the remixes, the music lost its energy, they made a big blob of nothingness out of the compoisitions. |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
Ive yet to see a Hubbard composition that hasnt somehow been lifted from something else. He claimed to have composed a bunch of his tunes, only to be found out years later when people dug up little known albums from the 60s and 70s that sounded exceedingly familiar.
Hubbard's response was always something like "oh yeh, it might have come from that, I dont remember - it depended on what the game company asked for". How do you forget whether you composed something?
Plagarist, through and through.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
proove it. you are free to post a list with the hubbard tune, and the oirginal names beside it. |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
This has been hashed through time and time again. I think Ill let sleeping dogs lie and try not to anger the hubbard fanbois. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
backing out is the choice of the weak. do you have anything to prove your point ? I know some tunes are 'plagarised', but all ? |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
Fair enough.
http://www.prg.dtu.dk/~theis/stil/html/text/Hubbard_Rob.htm
Geee, the original compositions are pretty far and few between arent they? And funnily enough, the 'inspiration' for a lot of these tunes has only been realised (and sometimes admitted to) relatively recently.
That is, he claimed they were original compositions until someone asked him directly whether the tune was lifted from Album X by Band Y. Who knows about the rest? Do you have every shite album from the 60s that only moved 50 units that Rob happens to have a copy of?
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
converting tunes from arcade and other platform titles cant be considered as a crime. and besides everyone was free the plagiare the hell out of anything, still hubbard's music stoood out of the rest. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147 |
that said, also ben daglish covered a bunch of tunes. but hubbard certainly was the "best" in doing it :=) |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
This one cracks me up:
/Hubbard_Rob/Wiz.sid
COMMENT: "Wiz was more of an attempt to do something with a mystical magical
quality about it. [...] Wiz was a genuine attempt to be different."
(RH)
(#1)
TITLE: Impressioni di Settembre (2:15)
ARTIST: Premiata Forneria Marconi
COMMENT: The melody line from "Impressioni di Settembre" can be heard several
times from 2:15 and onwards.
So it was "a genuine attempt to be different", but was lifted wholesale from an almost unknown italian album from 1971.
hahahahhahaa
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5028 |
show me someone who havent plagared anything on the scene. I dont like Hubbard either because of the overhype, but your dedicated anger shows you're somewhat jealous of his fame. Cant someone create a tune that sounds 'different' copying the melody from somewhere ? Why dont you accuse the coders for copying effects ?
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DRAX
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 224 |
Overhyped - maybe in some sense. But you have to see this in a historical perspective. At the time Rob Hubbard did his stuff it was outstanding - however some of his arrangements are still in my view damn excellent and I don't see many of todays composers as skilled musically in arranging and composing like Rob. It is true that he has lend from different people - who haven't. I don't really understand the devaluation of him... I think he did great compositions and excellent arrangements... He is not my favorite but his stuff was revolutionary back then and I think he deserves credit and respect for that... In my opinion he stills beat many of us musically, especially regarding melodies and arrangements... |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
I agree, his compositions still stand today, even if borrowed from classical or rock/pop/synth composers. Nemesis the Warlock is in my opinion unbeatable, allthough I do think he borrowed from a classical piece. (And why shouldn't he, I guess doing music is for him a learning process too.) |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
Quote: show me someone who havent plagared anything on the scene. I dont like Hubbard either because of the overhype, but your dedicated anger shows you're somewhat jealous of his fame. Cant someone create a tune that sounds 'different' copying the melody from somewhere ? Why dont you accuse the coders for copying effects ?
huh? Jealous?
I think you misread my posts. Im not angry at all :D I just know a plagarist when I see one.
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
plagiarism is in the eye of the beholder, eh.. |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
/Hubbard_Rob/Warhawk.sid
(#1)
COMMENT: This appears to be a superset of /Hubbard_Rob/Proteus.sid. The
identical bit starts at 0:18.
TITLE: The Unknown Planet [from the album Space Experience] (0:00)
ARTIST: John Keating
TITLE: Space Agent [from the album Space Experience] (0:41)
ARTIST: John Keating
TITLE: The Unknown Planet [from the album Space Experience] (0:53-1:16)
ARTIST: John Keating |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
It's tomorrow:
C64 Orchestra
22 september, 20:30
Podium & filmtheater Gigant
Nieuwstraat 377, Apeldoorn
Netherlands
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the_JinX
Registered: May 2006
Posts: 31 |
Now available for download, 4 nice mp3's of the evening.
http://www.oninternet.nl/project.asp?projectId=12#ONpersBeeldma..
Also a (new) trailer for their show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-poagc6c7qQ |
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tempest
Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 25 |
Premiata Forneria Marconi <3
atleast Hubbard had good taste |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
this cd is nice, i listened often. its more chamber music, or small orchestra, not big. lets go for big now! |
