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2006-09-24 01:13
Tim
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goattracker question

Hi..

After getting nostalgic I decided to give goattracker another try (after a poorly failed attempt in 2005).. so i've forced myself to actually compose 1 tune just for old times sake :)

just a short question which is driving me nuts!
I've looked everywhere to figure this one out, but I can not find a way to change volume.

I can find the Command DXY to change master volume, but I can not find the command to change volume in a channel.
(for instance to increase/decrease volume on drums/hihat only)

Any possibility of me just simply overseeing the obvious?

cheers
Tim


2006-09-24 01:19
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
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You had maybe just forgotten. It was AD SR. If you e.g. didn't use Attack Decay at all and put 00 into it, you could control volume of the channel by SUSTAIN value ... from 1x to fx

so.. try using SR values for volume in channel.

I look forward for your fresh tune(s)

Roman
2006-09-24 01:28
chatGPZ

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adjusting the volume of the different instruments was a major problem for me aswell...its just fiddling with adsr until everything is more or less ok :=P
2006-09-24 01:31
Tim
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grin.. I never was able to make sounds.. friends such as Eco tried to explain it to me but I guess I am just too stubborn to learn :)

ok.. I am that old that I am dreaming up things?

I though i remembered in good old dmc 4.0 this would be the correct procedure

snd.01
dur.02
vol.0e
c-0
vol.0c
c-0
vol.0a
c-0
vol.08
c-0
vol.06
c-0
etc.

or is it just me getting old?
(last thing I did was in 1998 so I am a bit rusty)
2006-09-24 01:49
CreaMD

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Heheh. Interesting. Okay Let's look into GT. Gimme sum time.

Ok.. first of all, use F12 for online help in GT.

as I said for VOLUME you use SR... (specifically SUSTAIN) so if you want to do it direectly in track, use command:

6XY - adjust X for volume..

for example

C-2 016f8 - play note C-2 instrument 01, volume f, release 8
C-2 016c8 - volume c
C-2 01688 - volume 8
C-2 01684 - volume 4

roman

PS: in command 6XY, Y is for RELEASE (release is length of the note when volume goes down to zero, this happens you set "gate" OFF)
2006-09-24 13:10
Tim
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Thumbs up mate!!!

good stuff.. that actually worked :)

(big smile here)
2006-09-24 13:39
CreaMD

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cool! ;-)
2006-09-24 19:13
Turtle
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Please, let us participate in your composition....
2006-09-24 20:38
Hein

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Quote: adjusting the volume of the different instruments was a major problem for me aswell...its just fiddling with adsr until everything is more or less ok :=P

hey, you a producer now?
2006-09-24 22:46
Tim
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Quote: Please, let us participate in your composition....

well.. sigh i hate to admit that I could use some help

http://www.mysticcreations.nl/c64/temp.zip

I'm trying to make something based on the tune "funktest.sng" and have run into some trouble.

first of all something's wrong starting the tune.
So I first have to load "funktest", play it (f1) for 1 second, then stop it (f4), then load my temp tune with f10, and then play it... then it does run the way i wanted it.

It only contains a few tracker pages which I have done so far whilst testing.. so ignore the simplicity, it mainly just testing although I love the first 2 pages :)

however, once it loops back to the beginning the sounds are fucked and out of timing.. so have to restart the procedure again as mentioned above.

must say that I am quite happy noticing upfront that due to the tracker style it's easier to spot empty gaps to 'cheat' the channels.. (thank god.. no more dur.02 dur.04 dur.02 and writing sheets op paper to find a timing gap etc) will have to spend some time on doing that later on in finetuning once I get some more 'body' on the tune.

Any comments or help or editing or whatever is appreciated :)

Come to think of it.. anyone wanting to duo up to do a tune is welcome to drop me a mail.. i'm getting a serious itch to get active again :D




2006-09-24 22:47
Tim
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ps.. any disks filled with sounds available anywhere?
 
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