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2016-04-25 08:27
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
Renamed release titles and nomenclature

Okay, so i noticed that somebody, or something, keeps renaming titles such that the amount of bytes, say "[64B]", is changed to "[64b]".

As ZeSmasher once correctly pointed out, there is this pretty much universal convention of abbreviating bytes to B and bits to b.

Now, who or what renames those titles? Why? What is this OCD shit?

Somebody, please clarify.
2016-04-25 09:06
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11120
there are some experts around that know better than you how your release is called. deal with it!
2016-04-25 09:10
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
I'm glad i have a life.
2016-04-25 10:26
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Quote: I'm glad i have a life.

@Krill: Hehe.. Given the topic of your initial post in this thread, I think I would need some further evidence for that, to be convinced. ;)
2016-04-25 10:46
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035
You are right. Anywhere I look they write uppercase B for bytes, lowercase b for bits.

Now what?



wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte

The unit symbol for the byte is specified in IEC 80000-13, IEEE 1541 and the Metric Interchange Format[10] as the upper-case character B.

simple wikipedia:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte

The symbol for "byte" is "B". Sometimes a lowercase "b" is used, but this use is incorrect because "b" is actually the IEEE symbol for "bit". The IEC symbol for bit is bit. For example, "MB" means "megabyte" and "Mbit" means "megabit". The difference is important because 1 megabyte (MB) is 1,000,000 bytes, and 1 megabit (Mbit) is 1,000,000 bits or 125,000 bytes. It's easy to confuse the two, but bits are much smaller than bytes, so the symbol "bit" should be used when referring to "bits" and an uppercase "B" when referring to "bytes".
2016-04-25 10:57
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11120
also most other abbreviations are *uppercase* by definition. (its "PAL" and "NTSC" and not "pal" or "ntsc") - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL
2016-04-25 11:05
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
One megabyte (MB) is 1,000,000 bytes? With no mention of any controversy?

I propose that 1,000,000 bytes should be referred to as one marketingbyte (M$B).
2016-04-25 11:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11120
that "omg HD manufacturers use base10 to fool customers" has been uninformed nonsense ever since :)
2016-04-25 12:27
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
Hehe, I love nomenclature and things like etymology, semiotics etc. This seems to be the forthcoming thread to look back at many times.. For most people upper- or lowercase wouldn't mean as much I guess, part from the mere aesthetics, the lower seems more pleasant to the eye. Nice read so far; opening new interests.
2016-04-25 12:35
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
Quoting Groepaz
that "omg HD manufacturers use base10 to fool customers" has been uninformed nonsense ever since :)
Indeed. As a rule of thumb, everything that provides a bitstream (network, storage, streaming itself, etc.) has been measuring with decimals since the dawn of time, as multiplexed row/column matrix access with binary addresses and power-of-2-size data words doesn't play a role there. Unlike RAM or ROM, obviously. :)
2016-04-25 12:41
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
Quoting Joe
part from the mere aesthetics
Yes, and taste is utterly and totally personal and should be left to the author, regarding this thread's raison d'être.
2016-04-25 12:48
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
Oh! Absolutely, I've stepped on your toes before, sorry about that. Love those phrasing though, keeping it. I'll stay in the back perhaps learning something about language and how moderators think and choose stuff around here simply.
2016-04-25 13:37
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
May I suggest not to abbreviate it, just to avoid confusion. Then one can choose the most aesthetic style and still be clear to the meaning:

64 bits
64 Bits
64 bytes
64 Bytes

But that might be way to pragmatic.. ;)
2016-04-25 13:49
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
+1
2016-04-25 13:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11120
what jackasser said, but replace "bytes" by "beers"!
2016-04-25 14:36
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 500
and p stands for POOP.
2016-04-25 15:00
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 421
The french would use "o".
2016-04-25 20:33
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
Destroying this thread just as any. Hahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMDZ9M5WKg
2016-04-25 23:14
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847
Quoting Mr. SID
The french would use "o".
I've always liked how the French language calls bytes "octets", as this is unambiguous. Because a byte didn't always consist of 8 bits, historically across all kinds of computing machinery. For some reason, that term has been replaced by the somewhat less correct, but more flashy "byte" in all the other western-European languages. :)
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