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2019-12-14 13:17
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Releases with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in sysline.

Hi board!
I need a little input from you guys regarding the sceneiness of ceartain releses.
I stumble across a great deal of games that have no intro(cracktro), no info in the game of who cracked and packed it. I dont simply not put them up here coz they are not scene releases.
Then we have games with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in the sysline.
YF=Yeti factory i suppose but would YF put out a crack without a proper intro? My take is that someone just use their packer. I dont upload them either for the moment.
Same goes to "C.C.S" witch I think refers to either "Computerbrains" OR "Cleveland Cracking Service". But same here is that someone who just use a packer from them or is them legimit releases from onw of the groups?
Any takes on this?
2019-12-14 15:05
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3137
> My take is that someone just use their packer.

Exactly. Don't trust just syslines. Anyone could have made them with known personalized-sysline packers.
2019-12-14 16:03
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
The packers from C.C.S. can be found here:

Maxshort V5.2

Maxshort V4.0

Maxshorter

Executer

Executer V2.0

Anybody could have used it since the packers were spread. If you find a crack with these packers, make sure to check if in the game text changes are made with C.C.S. or Computerbrains or if an intro of them is used.

If you quickly want to know which unpacker is used, then make use of:

Unp64 V2.35

During unpacking it will mention which known packer is used.
2019-12-20 19:36
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2492
What about JT then?
Here is an old thread about the topic, which gives a good list by Rough of presumably authentic cracker sys lines:
https://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=7&topicid=18362#96925
2019-12-21 19:05
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 629
Syslines should never be used, period. Before the days of intros some other type of branding was put in the game, usually on the title screen.
2019-12-21 20:36
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 89
Quoting Fungus
Syslines should never be used, period. Before the days of intros some other type of branding was put in the game, usually on the title screen.


Yes, but alot of crackers just simply put their name or signature in the sys-line. So I disagree with you. HOWEVER the sysline should be used with great caution.
2019-12-22 10:43
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2492
What icon said.
2019-12-22 14:59
Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
What the smart people like Fungus say.
2019-12-22 19:56
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
Smart people take syslines with caution, period.
2019-12-23 13:19
Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
Quoting Fred
Smart people take syslines with caution, period.
Smart people don't make assumptions, not even with caution.
2019-12-23 21:03
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
Assumptions are inevitable. Even credits in scroll text are sometimes wrong. Every info should be handled with caution and interpreted with common sense.

If you know the history of the group, if they made/released their own packer/linker/coder to the public, what time period they were active, what kind of coder/cracker/hacker/lamer they were, all the tiny details, then in some cases sysline info can be taken seriously.

Some uploaders have no idea and just assign sceners/groups to any info that is there which may lead to wrong assumptions. Therefore it is important to check uploads and that we document the info that we know so people get the right info and don't make the same mistakes over and over.
 
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