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The Overkiller
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Adding games/crax
My two cents: I think it's senseless upload the pic of a group's intro instead of the game's pic. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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this is a scene database, if you want screenshots from the actual game go to gamebase or lemon or whatever. |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
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i guess that's what the overkiller was trying to say :)
"I think it's senseless ... upload a pic of a group's intro instead of the game's pic!"
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Marauder/GSS
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scene database or not... I PREFER BOTH!!
Is it so hard to make a little gif-animation with a few screenshots??
When I add a game I always make a gif with screenshots from intro, game intro and a ingame-screenshot... and it doesn't take me much longer to get that .gif... just a few clicks more... (c;
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Skylab
Registered: Dec 2005
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I always do it like Marauder... It's much better... |
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Zeldin
Registered: Apr 2002
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We already had this discussion... I second what Marauder said. Make a .gif animation, it's so easy to do!
And for uploaders it's much easier to judge if the version you want to upload is already in the database, when you can see at least two screens (cracker intro and game screen) in an existing entry. |
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
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how about allowing 2 screenshots? 1 for game and 1 for intro? |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: how about allowing 2 screenshots? 1 for game and 1 for intro?
Nah, animated gif would do fine. |
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The Overkiller
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Quote: i guess that's what the overkiller was trying to say :)
"I think it's senseless ... upload a pic of a group's intro instead of the game's pic!"
Exactly! |
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
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ok... i still prefer intro screenshots over ingame screenshots. mostly i'm not interested in the games but in the work of the cracker and/or intro coder. 'cause that gives us a relation to the scene IMHO. so don't expect me to upload an incame screenshot or animated gif. i prefer png anyway! ;) |
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Marauder/GSS
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Higgie, just add pictures the way you like it, I have no problem with screenshots from intro only, at least there's a screenshot... (c;
I just wanted to say how I do and when I add a demo for example which is multi-part, then I also do it the same way trying to add pictures from every part, as I think only screenshot from 1st/one part isn't enough sometimes...
so I would say screenshots of the "crack-intro" is a MUST(if there's one), of "game-intro" is a PLUS, and "ingame" NOT REALLY NEEDED, but nice anyway... hehe
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TWR
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Yes, we want more screenshots like this one...
World Championship Boxing Manager
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
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@TWR: Yes! 'cause then there is no need for me to download this release as the intro is totally lame. And as I am not interested in a Boxing Manager Game this means no wasted time for me checking the intro after downloading. :)
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TWR
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@higgie: Ok, if the intro's the only thing you're looking for - fine. I like to see the whole concept - intro + fully working game. |
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
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Even though this is a "scene" database, I would sometimes see even the "game" credits for games here... (ye, ye, I can check Gamebase64, I know...)
But it wouldn't be that hard to have both intro-credits and game credits...
This actually leads me to my next wish... It would be nice to have credits for differents parts of mega demos as well. |
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: @higgie: Ok, if the intro's the only thing you're looking for - fine. I like to see the whole concept - intro + fully working game.
I second that.
I'm using UnFREEz to make animated gifs and it's deadeasy.
I lurv animated screenshots 8) |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
You could add fields for GB64 and Lemon64 IDs to entries. That way there'd be a quick and easy link if you want to check out game screenshots.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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even though this is a so called scene database I'd like to have some naked chicks, and funny videos. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
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I think every scener should have their own blogs on here. |
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Marauder/GSS
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Quote: I think every scener should have their own blogs on here.
but only when Oswald posts the naked chicks every day... hehe (c;
...IMO separate creditz for the different parts is not a "good idea" as you then may have to add a person several times... and I'm lazy JO(nes) *g*
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
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silly question about adding screenshots
Basically we managed to copy a whole thread 1:1 (except the naked chick part)
:) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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l o l |
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Zyron
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And it will happen again... |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: And it will happen again...
Yeah, i guess it's about time to start a fresh thread about anonymous voting :) |
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Zyron
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Quote: Yeah, i guess it's about time to start a fresh thread about anonymous voting :)
Excellent idea! :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Yeah, i guess it's about time to start a fresh thread about anonymous voting :)
Count me in! I have a great idea I want to share, about giving anonymous voters only the 4-7 range to choose from ;) |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: Count me in! I have a great idea I want to share, about giving anonymous voters only the 4-7 range to choose from ;)
Splendid! How do you manage to come up with things like that? I'm stunned! |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Splendid! How do you manage to come up with things like that? I'm stunned!
It's a gift. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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This all comes down to the simple fact that we (as a Commodore community) are doing things double, triple and once more over again with a little different flavour...
There's C64.com with rather specific and well sought out credits for both games and demos, but no tools.
There's the Gamesbase with info on games.
There's CBA's The Digital Dungeon with a lot of demos, tools, mags, but only 1 entry per game title.
There's Lemon 64, c64mags.c64.org, and probably a lot more with all sorts of selections of C64 software.
And there's CSDb with demos, tools, mags, etc, but only CRACKED games...
No wonder people get confused!
And for christ sake, we are already discussing what kind of screenshot you should add! This is pathetic... |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
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..and to make it even better, theres still no standard amongst sorters how to actually name all titles put online :)
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: ..and to make it even better, theres still no standard amongst sorters how to actually name all titles put online :)
Yeah let's talk about that again , and why not crunch all sites together into one big c64 portal :-)
Name of the game . software company . amount of trainers . ntsc/pal fixed . cracking group . importing group . zip
is the standard at TDD since 1994.
Oh yeah Mace, you forgot www.c64.ch for demos. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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I agree with the naming standard of TDD.
And I didn't forget c64.ch, it's in the 'etc.' somewhere in there ;-)
Which makes one wonder why there isn't a tool database! |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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It's an outrage! People having different standards, what is this world coming to? |
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: It's an outrage! People having different standards, what is this world coming to?
indeed. everyone can get fucked. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Lemmings! Borg! Get in line, you're only a number!
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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Quote: It's an outrage! People having different standards, what is this world coming to?
Files in a database like CSDb don't have to have any naming convention if they're stuck in the database. After all, the desired information is there as meta data.
On TDD however, the files form the database on their own, without any other meta data beside the name of the file itself. In this case, it is very important that all the files are named in an equal fashion.
To me it seems useless to discuss this matter of naming in a broad sense, as long as the objectives aren't the same.
Each database should have its own rules and ppl should stick to that. Don't try to exchange the lot, especially not in open and user-editable environments like the ones we're talking about. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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Quote: scene database or not... I PREFER BOTH!!
Is it so hard to make a little gif-animation with a few screenshots??
When I add a game I always make a gif with screenshots from intro, game intro and a ingame-screenshot... and it doesn't take me much longer to get that .gif... just a few clicks more... (c;
Same here.
One should wonder what a screenshot's purpose is.
IMHO, the purpose is to show in an instant what version of what program (be it demo, game or anything else) it is and in such a way to it's quickly recognizable.
So if the intro is just a tiny white scroll on a black screen, then THAT is what makes it recognizable and thus it should be added in the screenshot.
However, as you'd be looking for a certain version of a game, it might come in handy to add a screenshot of the game too.
Most demos only have one entry in the database, so to make it recognizable, there should be an animated GIF. How else would you be able to find that certain demo of which you only now little, if you'd only recognize it by a certain effect in the 5th part?
Same goes for games. In some cases you can only know for sure if you have the right game if you see both the intro and the game itself, especially if you know as little about games as I do ;-) |
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TWR
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Then it's no need to add screenshots from old Mr.Z cracks, since they all look the same... |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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Quote: Then it's no need to add screenshots from old Mr.Z cracks, since they all look the same...
'Then' as in 'when you only do the intro'? |
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TWR
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Quote: 'Then' as in 'when you only do the intro'?
Exactamundo. |
