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HMVDVA
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Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 20 |
Think before you release here at CSDb
Afval and I made a small mistake releasing Kuh Melking Preview because a few hours later we found out that this preview was actually a part of OstFriesland Games.
Even as a fake group we have our standards (and yes, quality control) so we decided to withdraw the release and delete it from CSDb.
Yesterday the release was recovered by the moderators and it re-appeared in the release list.
Why? Well, in their (the mods) opinion a release can't be deleted after it was released.
It sounds logical but...it was OUR (Hema + Troep) decision to withdraw OUR release!
We tried to convince them but they seem to ignore us.
So think before you release here at CSDb; as soon as you click that submit-button it's property of Perff and his henchmen. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
As I see it, Kuh Melking Preview shall remain on CSDb as an eternal patch on your shameless act of despair :)
No seriously, we have seen much worse things here, actually I don't mind at all. Nor should you, I guess... |
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The Overkiller
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342 |
I second this lady of fast food instead :) If a group decide to remove one of thier releases I think it's up to them... |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1676 |
What is on CSDb is in not the property of me or anyone else as such. :) Everything here is the "property" of the collective scene.
My oppinion about this is, that if someone releases something somewhere, that could be here at CSDb, uploading to some other web or FTP-site, spreading it on a party, or whatever, what was released is now out there and can't technically be withdrawn. (How would do that?) So what was released has now become a part of the collective scene.
CSDb tries do document as much as possible about this collective scene, and therefore the release should be here.
Personally I don't care if a release was deleted by the people who added it, but you can not expect it not to show up again later when someone stumbles across their local copy, and then adds it to CSDb, so why bother to delete it in the first place? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
At first I didn't give it much thought, but I agree with Perff.
What if you had released it by sending it by mail, on a floppy?
You can't call the postman and say: "Hey, please get my floppy back from the person who I sent it to." |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Yes.. gotto agree with Perff and Mace. |
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HMVDVA
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 20 |
Yeah, drag in the postman! Hell, bring in the pigeon and the empty bottle.
I'm talking about how OUR release was done (ie. uploaded here on CSDb) and about Perff & co. are falsifying scene-history by restoring the entry.
So please, pretty please with sugar on top: remove the entry.
If somebody re-adds the release in the future, well...we'll see about it then. |
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FMan
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 66 |
So you respond with "FUCK YOU PERFF" in the oneliners. Nice going there! You released it - now stand by it, you backboneless coward.
I recommend all the idiot asshole fake lamers be removed from CSDb. You are the ones who are ruining the scene. Screw you, imbecile!
PS. Of course I know I'm gonna get called a retard and a moron again for standing up for Perff, but I don't fkn care. Make my day...
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
I disagree but Perff and our German moderators know how I feel about this. Oh yeah I've quited my post here as moderator and will continue as trusted user.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yeh I also disagree, if someone doesn't want their release on here it should be their choice alone whether they want it available here or not, ESPECIALLY when it was a mistake or error (or whatever) to release it in the first place.
FMan: thought you quit? Still the same friendly guy I see... |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
If you don't want a release here, then you don't make it, simple as that. You can't turn back time and have the release undone, no matter how much you wish you could - it has been made, and it's already a historical fact. You could argue for removal of any download links, though. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
What a stupid thread. What will be the next topic? "My life has no CTRL+Z option, boohoo..", whiners. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
its still a re-release boys, so its minus points PLUS all the ridicule you can get from us.
hahhahahah Hema & Troep are lame rereleasers hahahhaha |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
You are all a bunch of spineless jellyfish!
My life has no ALT+W boohoo!
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
it was uploaded on a ftp. i downloaded it. it has an intro, and there is a game linked to it. its a release. it belongs to csdb. end of story.
and i have to second the topic of the original poster. THINK ___BEFORE___ YOU RELEASE. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
I would gladly help to remove that release. Completely with everything else released by hema(etc.) including all fake accounts and scener entries. So next time you are going to speak about henchmen, keep in mind that you can be really glad for having such henchmen in moderator team and having the privilege to release the crap here.
If I had to decide it would be all sent to dev/null. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote:FMan: thought you quit? Still the same friendly guy I see...
Wasn't banned thanx to one of the henchmen.. blocked the poll with "no" vote! ;-)
As for people having right to decide what should stay here. During the year there are few attempts on removal, or damaging of various stuff by it's authors, or people that added it.. (the motivations behind it differ, but usually it comes from miscommunication or clashes with other people..) I don't know what should we exactly do about it, because decision whether it is right or not depends on situation, but in general it's best to keep the rule, what is publicly released and available elsewhere, should not be removed.
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assiduous
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
Quote: I disagree but Perff and our German moderators know how I feel about this. Oh yeah I've quited my post here as moderator and will continue as trusted user.
thats a shame because you seemed the sanest among the mods |
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d0c
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186 |
the really big question is... will we see a finished version?... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
doc: search for "ostfriesland games" |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
Well.. this reminds me of when a bunch of you guys asked me to remove the we ist scheisse picture I did not too long ago, which after having uploaded it and being corrected by friends and foes I wish I had not uploaded in the first place and I apologized for it.
I did not remove that, simply because it is a matter of think before you post.
Having said that, why does there still does the edit function still exist on all old posts you have made in a comment field? Action often causes reaction and Id wish some of you would have the balls to leave your comments and/or apologize accordingly too.
Is that something the mods already voted on?
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:
Having said that, why does there still does the edit function still exist on all old posts you have made in a comment field? Action often causes reaction and I’d wish some of you would have the balls to leave your comments and/or apologize accordingly too.
Is that something the mods already voted on?
i totally agree that it shouldnt be possible to edit or delete comments... and so did other mods iirc. no idea why it hasnt been changed yet, perff? =P |
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FMan
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 66 |
Quoting JazzcatFMan: thought you quit? Still the same friendly guy I see...
Quoting CreaMDWasn't banned thanx to one of the henchmen.. blocked the poll with "no" vote! ;-)
I thought I explained this already as well... Oh, right, I did that in the message that was deleted for a reason I don't know by a moderator I don't know. No, under enormous pressure I "agreed to be thrown out" of #C-64 on IRC, but I did not quit the scene. And I don't understand why ppl want to ban me from CSDb. What the hell have I done wrong here? Have I deleted entries, changed their information, corrupted downloads or similar along those lines? No!
I have barely even touched the forums, compared to some fake sceners who have entered hundreds of messages with most of them meaningless. It's interesting that no matter what the topic, the talk soon turns to FMan should be banned. I hope it's dawned on you that at that time I would simply create a new account and become one more fake scener. Then I shall have my revenge and I would also declare war on everybody! Seriously, could we drop this subject?
I've never caused any harm to the database - in fact, the opposite is true: I have actually entered and added information and uploaded releases. But I guess secondary reasons take priority for many and the truth must subside to personal relationships - that's what happens when people get judged on hearsay. I didn't want to go, but now that I have earned the forum status of a 64er, I actually might leave you to yourselves - until I decide to go for 128!
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:
It's interesting that no matter what the topic, the talk soon turns to FMan should be banned.
oh phew.... and i thought it always turned into evil nazi moderator bashing. hooray for fman =P |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Quote:I hope it's dawned on you that at that time I would simply create a new account and become one more fake scener. Then I shall have my revenge and I would also declare war on everybody! Seriously, could we drop this subject?
If you did that, the evil nazi moderators would hunt you down and ban you again. As happened with nata :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
if you'd take the time and effort and make a war demo which is actually worth looking at i'd say... HELL YES! DO IT! =) |
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Djinn
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 8 |
Wow, JC, you're such a team player. Is it a reasonable assumption to say that you're not a people person away from the forums either? |
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SECRET MAN
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336 |
Quote: Quoting JazzcatFMan: thought you quit? Still the same friendly guy I see...
Quoting CreaMDWasn't banned thanx to one of the henchmen.. blocked the poll with "no" vote! ;-)
I thought I explained this already as well... Oh, right, I did that in the message that was deleted for a reason I don't know by a moderator I don't know. No, under enormous pressure I "agreed to be thrown out" of #C-64 on IRC, but I did not quit the scene. And I don't understand why ppl want to ban me from CSDb. What the hell have I done wrong here? Have I deleted entries, changed their information, corrupted downloads or similar along those lines? No!
I have barely even touched the forums, compared to some fake sceners who have entered hundreds of messages with most of them meaningless. It's interesting that no matter what the topic, the talk soon turns to FMan should be banned. I hope it's dawned on you that at that time I would simply create a new account and become one more fake scener. Then I shall have my revenge and I would also declare war on everybody! Seriously, could we drop this subject?
I've never caused any harm to the database - in fact, the opposite is true: I have actually entered and added information and uploaded releases. But I guess secondary reasons take priority for many and the truth must subside to personal relationships - that's what happens when people get judged on hearsay. I didn't want to go, but now that I have earned the forum status of a 64er, I actually might leave you to yourselves - until I decide to go for 128!
I agree.
The problem is,that you are not licking jazzcats ass like other people,here.
Another problem is,that you have an other opinion as this australian kangaroo,so you will see, that he will attack you more and more in the future.
Thats the australian art of war.
Its better to be alone as play jazz with a cat.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Your emotional instability in forums after your farewell post (that accused some sceners, including the one whom we are asslicking) was reason why we considered banning you.
The reason for second call for bannig were insultive posts under some releases by certain scener which you later removed. That is all.
You still tend to act a bit incosistently. On one ocassion you claim to be nice and harmless and on the other you belch flame and sulphur. E.g. the first post here is a bit too emotional. Why do you need to use so many insults like screw you imbecile.. , backboneless coward or, idiot asshole fake lamers in such a single post. Really not necessary. Not even one of them. It could be said completely without such attempts to insult without using 4 letter words (although you couldn't spare yourself of using it as intensifier later (I don't fkn care..) I don't say that this is reason for me thinking about ban being necessary in your case, but definitely it doesn't make me to believe that you are the person that you claim to be.
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
WTF? HMVDVA's user account is now closed ?! After nearly 12 hours? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
yes, finally. and hopefully more double/fake accounts will follow. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: WTF? HMVDVA's user account is now closed ?! After nearly 12 hours?
Actually it took those lame-asses 2 or 3 years.
Anyway, the scene was fun...once...
So I say bye-bye. See you at X!
German moderators killed the scene. |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
Scout, just to make sure.. this means no more annoying old-fart negative and at times unreasonable posts from you on csdb?
Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Now is this some class a scene drama at its best or what.
You guys should make a daily soap out of this shit, it would earn you millions.
The stunning award-winning performances by all the usual suspects are just off the scale!
STANDING OVATIONS !
Dont miss next weeks episode,
when scout discovers that life without us has lost its meaning and he remorsefully returns to the scene.
STAY TUNED!
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
This whole thread has absolutely nothing to do with the scene. It's one big joke, a late april fools thing or something. It serves no purpose & should die together with the fake account starting it. |
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fade
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
Quote: its still a re-release boys, so its minus points PLUS all the ridicule you can get from us.
hahhahahah Hema & Troep are lame rereleasers hahahhaha
cow obsession comes to an all time high
kids, say no to milk! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
i pity everyone who thinks that this thread, or even csdb as a whole, is the scene. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Secretman, if other people have different views that's fine, I'm just stating mine here. A general view on a release. Obviously a re-release ***IS*** a re-release!
CSDb **IS** an aspect of our scene, it's far from being THE scene in whole, as what makes the scene is different for everyone.
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SECRET MAN
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336 |
Aha. A re-release in 2008.Thats so funny.... and it was from hema,right?
I will write it in my protocol |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
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