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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Wikipedia Boneheads...
1541 Ultimate needs its own entry!
Wikipedian CSDb-Users to teh rescue! ;-) |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
hehe the best person would be the maker I guess. Unless some here has ordered one?
I never heard of it till just now, thanks for the heads up.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
well... it's IMHO huge historical achievement (if it does what it is supposed to do) so it should get it's entry in WIKIPEDIA (sooner or later), but probably not now.. we need to wait for year or so until it gets spread and properly tested. The publisher doesn't need help with promo (as I've understood his order-list is full right now) and if he needs it, I don't have problem to put a big huge banner at www.c64.sk ( ~400-600 uniques a day)
p.s.: I want one too!! ;-)
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
I voiced my opinion in the discussion. Very well-written article though. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
It's mentioned in an article on the Dutch site Computer Idee (which is basically about the HCC meeting next Saturday). No clue if that's "notable" enough but at least it's not just a commodore bbs ;) |
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linde
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 47 |
IMO, the mention in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_peripherals#Present_a.. is enough, but apparently the MMC64 has its own article, so I don't really see why this can't. |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
radiant: delete? wtf???
linde: Both the reference in c64 peripherals and the mmc64 article are from me. Only back then I didn't have to stand infront of a court and explain to a jury that has no clue and does not care why this is worthy... Pisses me off, I'm through contributing to Wikipedia, seriously!... If I get that "otherstuffexists" reasoning once more I'm gonna puke, Wikipedia is CHOCK FULL OF ARTICLES ON ANY ABSURD SUBJECT YOU CAN THINK OF (that's exactly why people like it so much!) and they tell me I need to justify my article? Yeah right!..
chancer: I'm gonna get mine in a few hours! ;-) |
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Graham
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Wikipedia is crap. A guy from the "atari task force" decides about CBM related articles... Tells a lot. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
DeeKay: It's barely been released... In a year or so there is probably enough notability for a separate article, until then it should simply be mentioned in for example the Commodore 64 peripherals article that linde linked to. |
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linde
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 47 |
Until then, we can enjoy ourselves reading an article about one of the fictional friends of Sonic the Hedgehog that spans 8 printed pages :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna
(all notable information) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote: DeeKay: It's barely been released... In a year or so there is probably enough notability for a separate article, until then it should simply be mentioned in for example the Commodore 64 peripherals article that linde linked to.
Reasonable. |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
Quote: Wikipedia is crap. A guy from the "atari task force" decides about CBM related articles... Tells a lot.
were you sure you weren't a door to door salesman of encyclopaedia's ? (we used to have them in the uk)
I don't think it's all bad, just taking everything on there as gospel is a no no, using it as a source and doing a bit more research is handy at times.
Now it makes me think, do I wait or buy the mmc ?. After reading, I notice the bit about the tape interface, that sounds interesting if I could use it to port tapes I have (normally with custom loaders). Being £92+ makes me wait, as I'd rather not buy something that turned out to be a lemming.
I guess more sceners having it = more chance of people making utils for it (maybe there is already, and I'm just being dumb).
Although I'm sure the angle of someone who knows the machine pretty well inside out to test it = whats good or maybe bad about it. |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
linde: word! ;-) That, or we could read about 7000 Wikipedia-pages on every tiny scrap in the fictional Stargate universe! ;-) Or how about checking out an individual page on every single one of 416 Simpsons episodes ever created? 8) Seeing all this glorious and indispensable content, who still needs a small page on an actual product you can buy that will make quite a few people happy? 8))))
Basically, that Otherstuffexists page is nothing more than Wikipedia covering its ears singing "LALALA I can't hear you!"...
Or how about that crystal ball page they always love to refer to - Every FUCKING VIDEOGAME AND MOVIE has had their own wikipedia page long before it hits the store/silverscreen! How's that for crystal balls, you dumb fucks?
All that talk about "this violates that golden rule by which we Wikicops act!" coptalk is complete and utter BS, Wikipedia IS FULL OF CRAP! That's a fact and everybody knows it! Not just what the articles are about, also the content! But it's OUR CRAP, and I always thought that was the appeal (well atleast for me! ;-) and also the idea behind Wikipedia.... |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Wikipedia is run by crooks (like everything else)
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Quote: linde: word! ;-) That, or we could read about 7000 Wikipedia-pages on every tiny scrap in the fictional Stargate universe! ;-) Or how about checking out an individual page on every single one of 416 Simpsons episodes ever created? 8) Seeing all this glorious and indispensable content, who still needs a small page on an actual product you can buy that will make quite a few people happy? 8))))
Basically, that Otherstuffexists page is nothing more than Wikipedia covering its ears singing "LALALA I can't hear you!"...
Or how about that crystal ball page they always love to refer to - Every FUCKING VIDEOGAME AND MOVIE has had their own wikipedia page long before it hits the store/silverscreen! How's that for crystal balls, you dumb fucks?
All that talk about "this violates that golden rule by which we Wikicops act!" coptalk is complete and utter BS, Wikipedia IS FULL OF CRAP! That's a fact and everybody knows it! Not just what the articles are about, also the content! But it's OUR CRAP, and I always thought that was the appeal (well atleast for me! ;-) and also the idea behind Wikipedia....
Reasonable too. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quoting CreaMD
well... it's IMHO huge historical achievement (if it does what it is supposed to do) so it should get it's entry in WIKIPEDIA (sooner or later), but probably not now.. we need to wait for year or so until it gets spread and properly tested.
The first ones have been delivered and miztluren(who paid after me but still got his before me..mumble mumble..) reports that he's been running sharp and demos from speedfisters from it, so its already safe to say that it does what its supposed to do ;) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Just got mine today!!!! ;-) Didn't have the chance to try it out yet, but it is beautifully manufactured! I'll probably try to mod a case from an unusable BTX-decoder to fit.... |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
DK, what's that with the reference from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_peripherals
to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1541_Ultimate
yours:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1541_ultimate
Maybe it helps to correct the link in the C64 peripherals page.
I'm no wiki expert, though the whole community thing is interesting. I hope it will get out of hand, resulting in total madness. \o/
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
it already did :=) |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
I think they're quite civilised still, but this little 'deletion' discussion is probably only a tip of the iceberg. |
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El Topo
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 43 |
There are hordes of mentally challenged individuals on Wikipedia whos sole purpose in life is to delete other peoples' articles. I've encountered quite a few on the Swedish section, I imagine there are 10x more on the english variant. The best way of avoiding them is not to contribute to Wikipedia in he first place but to create sepparate wikis were these people have no say. |
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assiduous
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
hi
there are several ways to get the article you want in Wikipedia even if it might seem non-notable to most. the most effective is to post a large amount of relevant information on the subject in a more general article. in this case that would be "Commodore_64_peripherals". when your part of the article is exceedingly long compared to the others you bring up the subject and the wikipedia staff will be more than happy to allow creating a separate article.
hope this helps |
