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ELA
Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 14 |
XE1541 and Windows
I used to transfer between 1541 and PC several years ago but I had pure DOS mode back then and programs like Starcommander.
I downloaded Starcommander today and found that it started in a dos-window making me realize I dont have any DOS mode anymore. There is some winnt/2000/XP support in StarCommander but I could not get it to work in Vista (yes..V....ista, my only PC with a parallel port).
So.. what tool is best for transferring data between XE1541 and Windows V.....vvv....v.ista.
Else I will have to dig out my old Pentium200 I have stored somewhere :)
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Afaik CBM4WIN will do what you want. I'm not entirely sure, but it's probably worth trying.
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
You'll need:
- OpenCBM (formerly CBM4WIN)
- XM adaptor for your XE cable
- CBMXfer (frontend for OpenCBM)
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ELA
Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 14 |
Quick check gave me some of the same Moloch points out: XE1541 isn't supported as is and it needs either to be rewired or an adaptor. Since my XE-cable is so nice (no way to open the sleeves to see/modify soldering) I will have to think adaptor.
However I'm not sure if I have DIN-plugs available anymore (too bad I cant use MIDI-plugs :) and there is no electronic hardware shop around here anymore. Any ideas where in Norway close to Lillehammer I can get hold of DIN-plugs? :-)
Where is my Chameleon 64? I want it now!... when will it be finished anyway ;-) |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
Not sure which branch of eBay is close, but have you checked there or any similar auction sites? I purchased my XM adapter online through eBay.
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Fredrik
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Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 204 |
ELA, you can use Starcommander on new computers also, if you have the LPT port on your motherboard.
Do a "ms-dos" startdisk on your floppy drive.
Then use this program to make a bootable usb memory:
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197
In that program, you point to the file in the floppy, and it copys the msdos.sys, command.com and io.sys to usb memory.
Then transfer these files to the usb memory.
SC.EXE
SCMAIN.EXE
MOUSE.EXE (activate mouse)
SMARTDRV.EXE (speeds up the tranfers)
Good Luck!
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
/me looks at the date, yep, YR2010
/me gets out shovel, makes SC dig its own grave
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
No, SC is fun, don't bury it!
Although I mostly work with NibTools.
I boot to MS/DOS using a CD. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
Nicely built XE & XM adapter, only US$15 and shipping to Norway appears to be US$5
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380221653766
Just one example, there is probably something closer to you.
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
XE can be transformed to XM by swapping wire 4+6 or 4+5 in the one end, simply. But you have to solder a bit.. Check the diagrams on SC homepage. |
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tbolt
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Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 6 |
@rambones: You missed the part where ELA says he can't access any of the adapter to modify it without destroying it. |
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ELA
Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 14 |
Looks like a combo-solution for me: I fetch my dusty p200 so I can transfer some stuff quick AND I will order a XM/XE adaptor ...... AND get the Chameleon64 when it becomes available :-D |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
Quoting Jan HarriesXE can be transformed to XM by swapping wire 4+6 or 4+5 in the one end, simply. But you have to solder a bit.. Check the diagrams on SC homepage.
Grrr!! STOP giving incorrect, incomplete and otherwise useless advice... Convert your XE1541 cable to an XM1541 cable simply by swapping pins 5 and 6 in the DIN plug. If the DIN plug can be opened there's even a good chance you can do this without soldering anything by just swapping the pins.
But as ELA already stated.. opening the plug is not an option... so more useless, but this time correct, advice at least :-P
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Fredrik
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Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 204 |
I have the XA-1541 cable, and it works really fine with Starcommander and the 1571 diskdrive.
And i run it in clean ms-dos.
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ELA
Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 14 |
Update: I could not get my old PC to work any better with the XE1541 than with my new one with Vista/4core cpu etc. After a lot of testing I have concluded that my XE cable is broken (it is over 10 years old at least) :-(
I am now trying to decide whether to buy a XM-adaptor or go straight for a 1541 Ultimate (since Chameleon64 isn't in sale yet and they have no more MMC64's in stock)... Decisions decisions... |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
www.docshardwarekiste.de
he has tons of cables for sale |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
ELA, buy or build an XM or XA cable right away, save money for a 1541u and when you have that, sell the cable again ;-)
Or keep both, just in case... |
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deizi
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Registered: May 2003
Posts: 95 |
better yet, get a computer with pure ms-dos. they're almost free ya know. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1641 |
I am afraid that I cannot see a single good reason to go for the X(A/E/M)-1541 cable solution in these days. What would in fact be one such reason? (I don't think there is any.) |
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Fredrik
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Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 204 |
Quote:better yet, get a computer with pure ms-dos. they're almost free ya know.
As i said before, pure ms-dos can be reached from any pc, just boot to ms-dos.
The important is the right type of lpt port.
But if you have a large desk, you can ofcourse buy a old pc and have it next to the 64.
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j0x
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215 |
Quote: I am afraid that I cannot see a single good reason to go for the X(A/E/M)-1541 cable solution in these days. What would in fact be one such reason? (I don't think there is any.)
Using nibtools/mnib and friends to dump and remaster original disks (together with a parallel cable)? |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
Quoting FranticI am afraid that I cannot see a single good reason to go for the X(A/E/M)-1541 cable solution in these days. What would in fact be one such reason? (I don't think there is any.)
Familiarity. Some people only wish to work with what they already know and there is nothing wrong with that. There is no reason to always use the newest and greatest to do a task. If that was true, none of us would be here with c64. |
