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2010-09-17 20:23
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Oh noes! The iPhone C64 app from Manomio uses cracked games

Well...duh! Of course Manomio doesn't mention (due to Steve's evil iTunes App Store policy) it's but not quite unexpected.
If you look at the intro screen of Bozo's Night Out (which comes free with the app) you can clearly read something like 'Cracked by The Phantoms 1984'.
Well, okay... you could shrug and walk along. But wait, there's a bit more and that's the fun part :)

Today (September 17th, 2010) Manomio came with an update of the C64 app which adds a C64 Basic Emulator 'for that nostalgic feeling'.
10 PRINT"HELLO" works but also LOAD, LIST etc.

If you load the game Heatseeker (also for free) from the game shelf and run it just go back to the game shelf and choose the BASIC emulator.
Do not resume the previous game (you'll be asked for that), reset the game from the Extra menu and do a dir (F7).

You'll see this:


WOW...as in Warriors Of The Wasteland?

Let's load it and run it:


LOL! The game with a fully working crack intro in front :D
On the iPhone.

I've checked the rest of the free games this way and saw cracks (with intro's) from Remember, The Force, Beastie Boys and some more.

You can buy games like Cybernoid I&II, International Karate, Snare... well, the *bigger* titles for 1,59 euro's in their store.
I wonder which cracks they use for that.
That bothers me a bit btw. On the other hand, history repeating: buying warez 'for that nostalgic feeling' :-)




2010-09-17 20:46
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Haha, that is well funny.

Still, why anyone would wanna play a C64 game on a touchscreen device (controls without proper feedback) is way beyond me.
2010-09-17 21:30
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
It's old news, isn't it? Cracks are often the best versions of those games, and have no copy protection. Most of the time these companies don't even have unprotected versions of their "assets" lying around.
Weren't the DTV games also based on cracked versions?
2010-09-17 22:08
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 110
Quote: Haha, that is well funny.

Still, why anyone would wanna play a C64 game on a touchscreen device (controls without proper feedback) is way beyond me.


because he's on holiday, traveling by train, shitting on the toilet, name it.. ;)
2010-09-17 22:31
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Quoting Mr. SID
Weren't the DTV games also based on cracked versions?

A mix. Where originals were available and not a major pain to crack, we used them. For the rest we used cracked games, unpacked and intro stripped.

Just watched a couple of intros on my iPhone, pretty neat. The F-keys are copied from TFC3 which is pretty awesome (sadly no monitor on F2 :).
2010-09-17 23:55
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
you gotta love the "pal filter" of this emulator (round edges, light shine, etc)
2010-09-18 00:01
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
I hope you're sarcastic ;)
2010-09-18 01:09
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
I like the TURBO button. :)
2010-09-18 03:02
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1920
Someone make that a chart pls?
Top iTunes/Store Downloads Group and Cracker based.
Earn points for firsties at Mount Cupertino again!
2010-09-18 12:51
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Quote: because he's on holiday, traveling by train, shitting on the toilet, name it.. ;)

The games still play meh, imo. I like touch device games when they are made with the touch design in mind, not when shoehorned into it after (and again, no feedback, I wanna feel the buttons I press). Then again this is probably personal preferences.
2010-09-21 08:48
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Okay, so the only thing that matters to me is this: Can i copy my own .d64s over and run them on the emulator? Or did %&$§ I-am-technically-so-dumb-as-to-not-realize-that-a-SIDplayer-is-the-exact-same-th ing-without-gfx-output-Apple feel this need to "protect" me again, just like they "protect" me from pr0n, Demos and pretty much everything I am interested in!...
I don't care about some crap games that nobody knows, let me watch Demos and run MY games!

Meanwhile, in the other camp: Metalvotze's Mammary Mobile, the Android Version of Widdys fantastic GBA Tit-Memory that won TUM 2007, is available in the Google Market! ;-D

Mager: I did not know you were involved in DTV development?
2010-09-21 08:54
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quoting DeeKay
Okay, so the only thing that matters to me is this: Can i copy my own .d64s over and run them on the emulator?


No, but you already knew that before you started your biased rant ;-)
2010-09-21 11:04
Isildur

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275
Can i run demos with fastloaders, open borders etc.?
2010-09-21 11:47
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Quoting DeeKay
Mager: I did not know you were involved in DTV development?

Credits are in the scroller on the title screen.

Maybe we should add the DTV as a CSDB release with proper credits... :)

Main coding was by Macbeth and dW, with additional game fixing by Burning Horizon and me. Oh, and jcompton did the documentation. I also did a few misc bits, like the directory listing, the joystick keyboard for basic, and the filesystem compression.
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