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WinstonSmith6079
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Neuromancer w/ 1351 Mouse Hack...?
Back in the mid-'90s when I still had a real C64 and like 100-kajillion 5.25" floppy-diskettes full of god-knows-what, I remember coming across a strange copy of Neuromancer that like added a sprite for like a pointing-finger and you used it to like select stuff or something and used a 1351 mouse (and other C64-compatible mice?).
Is this "mouse-fixed" version of Neuromancer still existent, as far as anyone knows?
Sorry, but I totally don't remember who the intro said did that--some cracker or cracker-group, I dunno who. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
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I am not aware of a 1581 mouse hack and we made the 1581 version back then.
Maybe you mistake it for the keyboard controls? Once you are into them they outrule joystick at any point in the game :)
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Steppe
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Count Zero, you probably misread "1351" for "1581". There was no mention about the 1581 version, just a "regular" version of the game with mouse support. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
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Just a typo Im sure. He made the 1581 version and was not aware of any 1351 version around ;-)
In fact many of such memories about special versions are false unfortunately. |
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WinstonSmith6079
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Yeah, I'm sure that many are, but this one isn't.
In any case I guess it might be lost in antiquity, sadly. But maybe it'll hopefully turn-up somewhere someday.
Otherwise maybe someone would like make a new one from scratch, if they were so inclined.
It seemed like it worked great, though I didn't actually play with it much as I didn't know how to play Neuromancer at the time. :P I lost the manual for it, see. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
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While indeed I mixed up 1581 with 1351 on the first part of my post - the rest still stands :)
We of course checked into existing versions when creating the 3"5 inch 1581 version and found no version really adding anything but changes on the PAX system to allow discarding of the code wheel. No added 1351 controls I can recall. :)
In fact - no "crack" we checked back then was done by ripping and packing the original files as the "original" disks were easily copyable using a program copying the sector id as well.
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WinstonSmith6079
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Yeah, okay, okay, it wasn't a "crack", just a modded version of the game with an intro.
Doesn't seem to be around anyway, albeit I've not personally checked absolutely every copy of the C64 ver. of Neuromancer presently on the Inet. And from the ones I've seen around the Web, there's nothing indicating that any of those copies have such an added feature, so I guess I haven't found it yet, if it's to be found at all.
Maybe someone would make that, though, or not. But it seemed a cool idea when I saw it in the mid-'90s. Why would a mouse-fix (mouse-hack, mouse support, it all sounds fine to me) be a bad thing? ??? Whatever! It's a good game in either case, I guess. |
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Count Zero
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Neuromancer is like the only game I completed more than two or three times and you sure will want to use the keyboard - even with an available hack - trust me :)
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WinstonSmith6079
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Hehehe okay hehehe
Yeah, I wanna play that sometime. Cyberpunk shoulda never went outta style, even should have been more in style than it was hehehehe Yeah, wanna play that.
So many games! So little time!
I think that the latest v9 of the GameBase 64 Collection has all of the docs for Neuromancer in its Extras. I think I'm gonna whip up a nice .RP9 file of it. Anyone want it? It'll save you the trouble of making it yourself hehehehe I'm usually pretty thorough about all the docs and lots of links to the C64 community and related sites. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
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Urg - offering such on ppl that ask for _common_ upload formats in the rules - something, that as far as I recall, can only be used on a crippled vice version where ppl here like new stuff. Oh my.
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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
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RP9
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Retinitis pigmentosa 9 (autosomal dominant), also known as RP9 or PAP-1, is a protein which in humans is encoded by the RP9 gene.
Not sure if a C-64 is able to handle that... |
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WinstonSmith6079
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Quoting Count ZeroUrg - offering such on ppl that ask for _common_ upload formats in the rules - something, that as far as I recall, can only be used on a crippled vice version where ppl here like new stuff. Oh my.
I know what you mean about the crippled VICE, and I do wish that they'd make it more configurable, such as for 'Advanced' users, perhaps also allowing the importing & exporting of VICE's .INI file(s), etc., such things there would help a lot.
But the rest of the time, I still use the "stock" VICE about half the time, for such reasons you mention. Yay for ver. 2.4! WOOOOOO! :)) I hope v2.5 comes around rather more quickly, don't you? hehehehe
Quoting FiermanRP9
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Retinitis pigmentosa 9 (autosomal dominant), also known as RP9 or PAP-1, is a protein which in humans is encoded by the RP9 gene.
Hehehe LOL Teh Wiki LOL awesome! hehehe |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
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though not being unthinkable at all, mouse hacks are considerably rare. From old days I currently just recall Arkanoid. Yet I heard people 'remembering' mouse hacks for Pirates!, Maniac Mansion (before it happened), etc.
Maybe you mean joy-mode of the mouse? You can let the mouse emulate a joy. So its still much smoother than a joystick control but not as accurate as 'real' mouse.
Could it be that? |
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TheRyk
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I also have my doubts. Sometimes you just remember things wrong. I caught myself more than once remembering games totally differently than they actually were. |
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King Durin
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Quote: though not being unthinkable at all, mouse hacks are considerably rare. From old days I currently just recall Arkanoid. Yet I heard people 'remembering' mouse hacks for Pirates!, Maniac Mansion (before it happened), etc.
Maybe you mean joy-mode of the mouse? You can let the mouse emulate a joy. So its still much smoother than a joystick control but not as accurate as 'real' mouse.
Could it be that?
A mouse hack for Pirates! would be epic. |
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chatGPZ
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Quote:From old days I currently just recall Arkanoid.
and wasnt that a feature of an official (re)release? |
