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2013-06-02 15:25
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
Highest times-x speed of SID tunes?

Hey there,

especially in older tunes you encounter double/quad/whatsover speed. I wonder what is the highest figure. AFAIK Barbarian is 8x speed. Is there any tune with a player routine that is supposed to be called even more often per frame?

Thx in advance
Ryk
 
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2013-06-02 21:31
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
First that I am aware of is Michael Winterberg - 3 July 1986 - First Dance Sample 1986

First 8xspeed - Jeff/X-Factor - 27 June 1992 - House

First 12xspeed - Jeff/Camelot - 1994 - 12-Speed tune

First 16xspeed - Taki/Natural Beat - 15 September 1998 - Cubic Player


Source: http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=world_of_de..
2013-06-04 18:35
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
Thx everyone!
2013-06-04 20:13
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Interesting thread mates.

I may be dead wrong but as far as I can remember, back in time when Hermit coded the 'rakBIT' SID remix album interactive album cover that was a good old C64 music collection, he told me something like that his SIDRIP tool that reads the SID registers from clock to clock reported some extra wicked multispeed player code for Martin Galway's TIMES OF LORE title tune, the one that sounds like a real guitar. I can't recall it clearly but as if we talked about some 16x player or something.

iAN what do you say? You know the players inside-outside.

The rakBIT music colly includes a Richard Joseph tune, too, called 'Rimrunner'. I still can't recall clearly as Hermit told me a lot of code tech stuff that I could not really understand at the time but it was maybe an another multispeed tune, with extra wicked player, eating almost all the rastertime available. But maybe not, it might have been Galway's Times of Lore?

Check the album cover colly if you like, both tunes are included:

rakBIT

These are not the original SIDs in it but the bytestream player.
2013-06-04 20:45
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Galway's Arkanoid is filled with multi-speed sounds at least. :)

I think Barbarian is 8 speed.. resulting in not too obvious multi-speed sounds, but a great tune overall.
2013-06-05 15:28
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639
Yup, Barbarian rules.
2013-06-05 21:04
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Hmm what year are those ones?
2013-06-05 22:47
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
Barbarian is almost ancient - 1988.

Maybe these records you linked need to be checked.
2013-06-06 12:47
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Quote: Hmm what year are those ones?

Arkanoid - 1987
Barbarian - 1987
Times of Lore - 1988
Rimrunner - 1988

I agree mates, Barbarian is a gem. All of them above IMO :)
2013-06-06 17:44
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Arkanoid is multi-speed if it comes to sound-fx, and the samples are generated realtime (at ultra-speed), which sounds alot cooler than the alternative drum sampled version.
2013-06-06 19:08
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
wth is "ultra speed" ? =)
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