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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
Release id #248155 : Hiking Home for Christmas
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Peacemaker:
The pic you linked at imgur was made by you making a screenshot. In that way windows/gfx card driver sub-pixel enhancement gets picked up. Examine the pic, there's more colors than there should be. So no screenshots, download the file from csdb or c64gfx.com, crop the borders and upload that. So much for me "being stupid". |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292 |
"Too many people with assburgers around here."
People with Aspergers (assburgers) often have a strong focus on specific personal interests and issues. The need for them holding correct answer and logic and they have a difficulty shifting perspectives, which can make it challenging for them to let go of certain topics or discussions.
It must be you? |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292 |
hmmm... Actually I was tosay into something cool but I dropped it because of all this... so I wrote some text and had fun with that for Vandalism nws instead... What did you do for the scene today? |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quote: hmmm... Actually I was tosay into something cool but I dropped it because of all this... so I wrote some text and had fun with that for Vandalism nws instead... What did you do for the scene today?
did code 1 new part for a demo. its not finished yet, but looks promising. |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292 |
Quote: did code 1 new part for a demo. its not finished yet, but looks promising.
fantastix... look so 4ward to see what it will be... like I told you in the past, you are insane great at democreating your stuff. all my love |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Even if this tool could accurately detect AI generated images, which it could never 100% do with C64 images I think (to date no AI can generate in C64 format afaik - so all images would need some human work anyway), won’t it create a new problem..? Much like the AI text checker, people can use this tool in the opposite way:
- person creates some art with AI
- feeds the pic here to get a score
- modifies art some
- gets a new score
- blur, tint, modify, add extra elements
- get new score
- edit
- get new score.. boom, now it’s 5%
- release on CSDb and C64GFX, safe in the fact that you now have “proof” that it’s not AI.
100%, people can figure out how the algorithms used here work and can probably create tools that stop those algorithms being able to detect AI. Also, probably possibly to modify the AI algorithms to avoid detection too? |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Quote: It must be you?
@PAL
Sure. Perhaps. Are you making fun of my condition? That’s not very nice of you.
On the other hand, comprehension deficit doesn’t manifest itself in lack of arguments for one’s cause, it manifests in inability to understand what’s being written/told. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Raistlin:
Sure, but if it turns out that all false results are false negatives (either because of C64 treatment or deliberate masking it doesn’t matter), with not one false positive, then the tool is useful, right? I think some people here fear that. |
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El Jefe
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 81 |
I have been going through everything related to my latest scene project as it will soon enter the final development phase.
We have a great concept and a funny story, with lots of great SID tunes and many original gfx by 2 of the best gfx artists around in the c64 scene, and I mean real, not wannabe-artists that have to resort to AI or converting existing gfx!
Then later, in the evening I took part in this unpleasant discussion. Should have stayed away from it! |
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CopAss
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 21 |
There is only one irrefutable proof that a person took the picture: timelapse video.
Even the first 2 hours are enough to see how the first sketch is created from scratch.
If you see that "puff" appears immediately, a completely developed perfect contour, which does not change later, it already suggests that it is a fake.
So, everyone can decide whether it is authentic or not. |
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