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2005-10-13 20:18
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
A tip for screenshots.

If you use VICE to take screenshots turn off the PAL-emulation to get screenshots with more realistic colours.
 
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2005-10-14 09:02
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
The PAL Emulation makes quite a difference, compare these two:

PAL on: The Final Synth Sample I
PAL off: The Final Synth Sample I
2005-10-14 09:30
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
ok, I rest my case.. :)
2005-10-14 17:57
Tch
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I think PAL-emulation is ment to give an indication of how things would look on a TV.
Turning it on,gives the screen a bit of a more ´blurred´ view.

But Graham explained that the colors on a C64 get ´blurred´ at the source.
Colors influence the colors next to them and I think that is true and not a trick of the eye.

But should I always make a screenshot with borders even when there is nothing happening in there?
2005-10-14 18:53
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: I think PAL-emulation is ment to give an indication of how things would look on a TV.
Turning it on,gives the screen a bit of a more ´blurred´ view.

But Graham explained that the colors on a C64 get ´blurred´ at the source.
Colors influence the colors next to them and I think that is true and not a trick of the eye.

But should I always make a screenshot with borders even when there is nothing happening in there?


I think the border should be there always. That's just how the screen looks. It has a border, may it be black or blue or any other color. Keep the border! :)
2005-10-15 03:06
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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all your borders belong to me
2005-10-15 09:35
Graham
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@Zyron: That two screenshot would look exactly the same if the same base colors would have been used. No matter if PAL emulation or not.

EDIT:

Looking more close at them: both DON'T use PAL emulation.
2005-10-15 09:44
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Both were taken with VICE 1.16 using the same palette, one with PAL Emulation turned on & one with it turned off. Why would I make that up?
2005-10-15 09:44
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: @Zyron: That two screenshot would look exactly the same if the same base colors would have been used. No matter if PAL emulation or not.

EDIT:

Looking more close at them: both DON'T use PAL emulation.


Maybe we should look at VICE and implement a switch to set the PAL emulation on/off for screenshots?
It's open source you know. :)
PAL emulation is very nice for running the stuff. It looks very blocky on my TFT otherwise.
I would also like it to automatically do 'list' before 'run', like one would do on a normal c64. :)
2005-10-15 10:43
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Maybe we should look at VICE and implement a switch to set the PAL emulation on/off for screenshots?
It's open source you know. :)
PAL emulation is very nice for running the stuff. It looks very blocky on my TFT otherwise.
I would also like it to automatically do 'list' before 'run', like one would do on a normal c64. :)


Why would I want that?
If I list before run I only see a SYS number anyway. But then I am no coder...
2005-10-15 10:45
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: Why would I want that?
If I list before run I only see a SYS number anyway. But then I am no coder...


It was quite common to put release information in the sys-line. Year/Group for example. When checking loads of stuff to upload it's a pain to do 'list' because VICE has no quick menu to just load the program, only load and run.
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