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2024-09-26 14:18
Gordian

Registered: May 2022
Posts: 80
Additonal categories

Hello,

Is there any chance that in the nearest future additional categories of releases will be added?
I mean:
128b intro
512b intro
basic screen fader
maybe 64b, 32b, 16b...

Best regards
Gordian
 
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2024-09-27 00:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
Quote:
my ass fader

That actually calls for a compo!
2024-09-27 00:15
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
32b INTRO *rofl*

Actually it would be more likely to REMOVE crappy categoriesand move current entries to a more generic category.
Whats the problem putting some kickass 32b INTRO entry as a C64 *INTRO*? Too little attention on some statwank?

We'll discuss the term "intro" elsewhere then...
2024-09-27 07:41
Gordian

Registered: May 2022
Posts: 80
Quote:
Whats the problem putting some kickass 32b INTRO entry as a C64 *INTRO*?

So why do exists categories like "1K intro", "256b intro", "Fake demo", "4K game", "Basic demo"(?)
It would be nice to have some way to filter releases to get desired results.
If not categories, maybe tags... But I know, I can add new tags until the end of the world.
To summarize the discussion, any changes are not expected, and we can keep in this state...
2024-09-27 11:24
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928
CSDb needs less categories, not more
2024-09-27 12:33
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Quote:
Quote:
my ass fader

That actually calls for a compo!

Somebody please do this.
2024-09-28 04:43
ws

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251
i'd prefer instead, that, for cracks it would be mandatory to add "copy protection removed:" with a drop down list of known copy protections, default: "none"
2024-09-30 01:52
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 293
I second what ws just suggested.
2024-09-30 16:18
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2241
Quote: CSDb needs less categories, not more

To me, both views can make sense.

But as the new thing is author-decides-if-a-one-file-demo-is-set-Music/Graphics/Intro, anyway, I don't really see how additional categories are going to get us anywhere... reacting to that trend would rather involve possibility of setting unlimited flags/categories... But if everything is set belonging all categories, the question is, wouldn't this be against the whole concept of the term "category"?

plus what oswald sez about acadamic nature of this discussion...
2024-09-30 21:34
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 487
Quote: i'd prefer instead, that, for cracks it would be mandatory to add "copy protection removed:" with a drop down list of known copy protections, default: "none"

This would presuppose qualified categorisation of thousands of entries. Are you the volunteer to walk through all crack entries and qualify them by the copy protections and if it was really cracked or just worked around. I'd call you Sysiphus if you want to do that.
2024-09-30 21:46
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
I will, there's plenty of my own releases that don't deserve the "crack" moniker, but I don't have any choice what to call them.

Most of these arguments come from people who don't want to put the effort forth to have a proper db. It's a big job and people are supposed to help with it from the community. But then you get all these people who either just want a data dump for whatever, or people who have strange ideas, or others who get their jimmies in a tussle if you dare to change something on one of their releases because ego over accuracy. Or tradition over logic.

It's the same argument about what is scene, or what is a demo, or what is a crack. To me it's all or nothing, because you can't categorize everything. There's also the exclusionary snobbery that has always been in the scene, be it crackers being snobs about what is best practices and who is lame or elite, or demo sceners being snobs about how they are so much better than cracking scene, or phreakers and swappers being snobs about how important they are to the scene.

Does it matter? Is it a db or a place to show off? Sometimes I wonder what the point is when talking to staff about it, they seem at odds too about everything. Especially when the rules are the rules, except when they aren't.
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