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2019-12-14 13:17
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Releases with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in sysline.

Hi board!
I need a little input from you guys regarding the sceneiness of ceartain releses.
I stumble across a great deal of games that have no intro(cracktro), no info in the game of who cracked and packed it. I dont simply not put them up here coz they are not scene releases.
Then we have games with "YF", "C.C.S" and "JT" in the sysline.
YF=Yeti factory i suppose but would YF put out a crack without a proper intro? My take is that someone just use their packer. I dont upload them either for the moment.
Same goes to "C.C.S" witch I think refers to either "Computerbrains" OR "Cleveland Cracking Service". But same here is that someone who just use a packer from them or is them legimit releases from onw of the groups?
Any takes on this?
 
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2019-12-24 06:50
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
A sysline is no proof, period.
2019-12-24 07:43
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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Quote: A sysline is no proof, period.

You're right and I never said that. It can be used in combination with other things to proof things.
2019-12-25 06:10
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2581
Nothing is a proof. Everybody can rip a Triad intro, alter the scroll text and link it in front of a game. So we should allow only the verified original crackers or their verified group mates at release time to add cracks to the db.
Oh, and ", period." Of course. Just to make sure it is clear that what I am writing is the absolute scene law, and everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
2019-12-25 14:57
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting Fred
You're right and I never said that. It can be used in combination with other things to proof things.
Don't say 'proof', when you (probably) mean 'infer'. It's still an assumption, though.
2019-12-25 15:00
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting bugjam
[..] everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
You don't have to mention this, we already know you're one of "those" moderators @ CSDb.
2019-12-25 19:52
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
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Quote: Quoting bugjam
[..] everybody else with a differing opinion is a stupid lamer.
You don't have to mention this, we already know you're one of "those" moderators @ CSDb.


Meaning what exactly, if I may ask?
2019-12-25 23:27
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
Yes but ripping, altering and linking an intro is a lot of work compared to some lamer who downloaded a cruncher from random place and compressed a file they found on some disk from who knows where.

Do you really think someone would go to such extremes to fake a release?

Get real.
2019-12-27 22:59
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2581
Do you really think that every cracker, especially in the very early days, was so vain or even got the idea to make an intro for his release?
Get real.
The tool to check is available with unp64.
There _was_ a scene before you, you know. And for quite some time.
2019-12-28 01:03
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
Like I said, in the old days there was a thing called BRANDING, which was done on every release I ever had from those times.

You should try to keep fake releases out of the db, if there is no undeniable proof, then it should be ignored. And a sysline is hardly undeniable proof.

Stop with your strawman arguments. This is simple logic.

And yes, EVERY CRACKER was VERY Vain, making a name for yourself was the whole point!
2019-12-28 01:08
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
In fact, this should not even be up for public debate, it is a moderation issue. You should take it private and vote on it.
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