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2023-06-06 11:36
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 116
Event id #3294 : X-2024

I was having a discussion with a few guys over beers in X'2023 and the compos. I was telling about my days as OR8 pilot in the RC world where we had junior, hobby and pro categories for the races.

To make it abit more motivational the people/groups who aren't 20 members strong each with 30+ years of demo coding experience it might be worth while considering other options ?

eg. some of the ideas we discussed:

. Having a pro (ie previous winner category) and hobby section so that contributors are compared to peers of similar experience
. Splitting the voting/ranking for 1 filers from multi disk entries
. Newcomer award for those individuals or teams who never submitted to X before
 
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2024-05-11 21:49
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 250
We're adding the recordings on YouTube as well, but don't forget you can also view it on Scenesat.

The talks are there, music, graphics, PETSCII and 4k intro so far. The demo compo recording is being prepped.

This is the playlist, videos will be added as available:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZrOu95tr-T7Uo8xt-L5weYc..
2024-05-12 05:34
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
Quote: I think Camelot will win. Or perhaps Resource!

you will win if you join cosine ;-)

people hold back stuff for 1 or 2 years. thats how it is now.

I'm glad my old dutch friends hold such a good party BUT it's a bit like football premier league vs some guys who have the sunday kick about after a drinking fest on a saturday night.

finding stuff that hasn't been done already.. good luck with that.. just seems about optimization now.. like games, it's gone the way of the music industry.. demos from say 85+ onward are a very distant thing.


it's maybe 5 or 10 groups that REALLY push to win.. vs other groups with far less resources..



right , anyone got crossbows email ? i'm sure he'll join up ;-)
2024-05-12 09:49
The Sarge

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 43
While I agree it's harder to find new things to do on a technical level there is still much to explore storywise and both audibly and visibly. Finding new ways to express yourself with visuals and music perfectly synced together bringing emotions to demos in a new way.

I will keep doing this as long as the people I work with put up with me! :)

And don't sit and hold back releases. Working in a constant pace while the iron is hot is the key. Otherwise it's start and stop and that breaks the creative flow.

Thanks for X24. See you at X26 and I will be there again.

Keep demoing!
2024-05-12 12:50
Wile Coyote
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 646
The Fairlight demo looked really something.
I liked the tune that plays at the end, by Danko.
Loved all the red & white text over images, and the images themselves. The theme/story worked really well.
Does the demo have enough to make it into the CSDb Top 10 ?
2024-05-12 13:47
serato

Registered: Feb 2021
Posts: 7
Quote: While I agree it's harder to find new things to do on a technical level there is still much to explore storywise and both audibly and visibly. Finding new ways to express yourself with visuals and music perfectly synced together bringing emotions to demos in a new way.

I will keep doing this as long as the people I work with put up with me! :)

And don't sit and hold back releases. Working in a constant pace while the iron is hot is the key. Otherwise it's start and stop and that breaks the creative flow.

Thanks for X24. See you at X26 and I will be there again.

Keep demoing!


I feel like our entry was primarily about showcasing a couple of new things on a technical level.
2024-05-12 16:08
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1293
After watching FG and FLT productions or Reflex 4k I'd argue there's still a lot room for fresh codeporn and 'how TF did they do' moments <3
2024-05-12 16:19
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2102
Quoting Wile Coyote
The Fairlight demo looked really something. ...

That kid trident was a nice catch for FLT (nice talking to you), looking 4wd to future X when other 1337 groups join again, FLT is definetely a group I expect to keep competing for winning in the next couple of years.
2024-05-12 17:33
papapower

Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 6
Quote: After watching FG and FLT productions or Reflex 4k I'd argue there's still a lot room for fresh codeporn and 'how TF did they do' moments <3

Completely agree, I believe that we’re still going to see some code porn, on the 4k side because there is still a lot to do sizecoding on the C64 but also on trackmo kind of releases where continuous disk loading feels like you have way more than 64k to play with
2024-05-12 22:32
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2857
Quoting chancer
people hold back stuff for 1 or 2 years. thats how it is now.
Nobody "holds back" stuff. It's made with a deadline in mind and more often than not finished very close to it.

Quoting chancer
it's a bit like football premier league vs some guys who have the sunday kick about after a drinking fest on a saturday night.
Including armchair coaches who are disappointed when their favourite players don't deliver as expected, eh? :)

Quoting chancer
finding stuff that hasn't been done already.. good luck with that.. just seems about optimization now.. like games, it's gone the way of the music industry.. demos from say 85+ onward are a very distant thing.
Technical innovations have always been rare. They still do happen often enough, but maybe not with the ancient style you seem to be fond of.
2024-05-13 01:28
El Jefe

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69
Thanks to the X-organizers for spoiling us with such a well-organized party.

It was great to finally meet some more of my scene heroes like e.g. Mibri, Psycho8580, Honcho, Krill, Toggle, Almighty God (after 30 years!!), Flex, Trident, Linus, ... in person, even if it was just a short chat with some of you.

Will be back in 2026 for sure!

El Jefe/Slackers/sidDivers
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