User Comment Submitted by saulc12 [PM] on 21 May 2021 I should just point out that I am not letting anything ruin my day, I am not distressed or in tears and I do not feel the need for validation. The reason this bothers me so much is as I said already, I don't like spite or cowardice and I am not the only target, plus as I said it then makes voting (especially in things like competitions) pointless. It is not how I approach the scene and I find it disappointing and frustrating that some people do approach the scene in this way. Thanks for everybody's input and comments though. User Comment Submitted by saulc12 [PM] on 21 May 2021 Chiuhino, I am not saying that I cannot be voted low for every tune I make, after all if somebody really doesn't like what I do then they don't like it, what I am saying is that it is obvious when this is just default and deliberate downvoting (and I am not the only person that has to put up with this). If the majority of votes are in the 8 to 10 range and somebody then comes along and always votes 1 or 2 this is not somebody expressing an opinion, it is just spite. As I said before, it then makes the whole voting process pointless. I accept that music can be quite divisive, but not to that extent. I don't understand why you would defend the actions of shit-posters and trolls. User Comment Submitted by iAN CooG [PM] on 21 May 2021 > ban anonymous votes you have no idea how many so called "friends" would be finally revealed to be actually back-stabbers if that would happen and all anonym votes became public :D I was a mod in here and I could see the voters even if set to anonym ;) All I have to add is: don't let a SINGLE low voter ruin your day, everyone in here sooner or later will get his own personal "hater" because the system allows it, but the majority of positive votes should compensate the existance of a single idiot who doesn't have the guts to tell you what he thinks in your face of you or your releases. User Comment Submitted by Steel [PM] on 21 May 2021 Saul i really love this and you shouldn't care about that single downvote hater. haters gonna hate who cares ;) take my 10 User Comment Submitted by chuinho [PM] on 21 May 2021 Saul, but what you say is basically: "i can't be voted low for every tune i make" - i think you can, and this possibility applies to absolutely everyone, even LMan or Linus. there is no objective value of what we do and each musician has his/her own style, which may be - for individual cases - annoying, hence the downvotes. still, i really understand your sentiment - if i wasn't so much a relativist, i'd post comments very similar to yours ;) User Comment Submitted by SKR [PM] on 21 May 2021 If I could change only one thing about csdb, it would be to ban anonymous votes ... but well, that topic has been discussed many times. @saulc: I think that as an artist you shouldn't even care at all about (down)votings, or even make your contributions to csdb dependent on them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some manage to express their opinion honestly, others dont. The usual downvotes seem to come from people that are too bitter, manipulative or poisonously ambitious to be able to make an appreciative judgment about other's work at all. Keep up your work and keep posting your stuff to CSDB. I would not want to miss any of it, just due to some lame downvoting. User Comment Submitted by saulc12 [PM] on 21 May 2021 I don’t have any tears, I am just annoyed. I stayed away from CSDB for a year because I got annoyed about this stuff before, and I now regret coming back on, because absolutely nothing has changed. I said it before that this kind of stuff brings out the worst in me and I don’t want to be in that position. User Comment Submitted by Stabile Altbauten [PM] on 21 May 2021 Saul I get also low Votes but it do not matter because i know what is right Inside of Myself . No Reason for Tears.! Let us become a group we can become Low Voted People from CSdB how sounds that Saul ? Put a smiley on your face Yours Micha User Comment Submitted by saulc12 [PM] on 20 May 2021 Chuinho, somebody downvoting every single thing that you post is not in any way about whether they like the music or not; it is shit-posting and trolling and it makes any voting in competitions or otherwise on here absolutely fucking pointless. What’s more it is always anonymous and the fuckers who do it never post a corresponding comment with any critique or explanation as that would mean that they outed themselves. Funnily enough I don’t care whether I win or lose, I just can’t abide spite or cowardice. User Comment Submitted by chuinho [PM] on 20 May 2021 Saul, the overall compo result will NOT be calculated basing solely on csdb votes. btw. countless times i was disappointed with what i could describe as 'downvoting', but i suppose it's just people not liking my music at all. it kills motivation and does damage to self-esteem, but we're in the most abstract of arts, in which anyone can vote low without giving an objective reason. User Comment Submitted by Matt [PM] on 20 May 2021 Initially I wanted to say that you shouldn't worry too hard about the downvoters but to be honest I would just be as pissed off as you are. What the fuck people! Great tune by the way. ... User Comment Submitted by Joe [PM] on 20 May 2021 Lovely tune! User Comment Submitted by theK [PM] on 20 May 2021 Really nice tune! Sad to see the behavior from some people. :-/ User Comment Submitted by Oswald [PM] on 20 May 2021 agree with saul, you should be ashamed guys. disgusting what you do. User Comment Submitted by saulc12 [PM] on 20 May 2021 I see the down voters are in again, just so one again there’s no fucking point in me ever entering into any competition on here because some spiteful twats will vote down every time, and they cottoned on to the fact that just voting one has no impact, so that’s me not posting on CSDB any more. Utterly fucking pointless. ...
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It's quite easy to distinguish honest score from being arse with self-esteem complexes - especially when you see how votes are generally distributed
It's not about hurting feelings - some actions are purely deliberate and it's like letting maniac killer loose and calmly eating one's dinner, knowing this fact all the time. No, just no.
They won't cancel each out if there is not much vote(r)s.
That said, what also needs to be removed is the ability to see the result of the voting before you even voted. Not only this skewes the results - not seeing the result might even motivate some more people to vote at all.
when you go public, you have to deal with your scene friends feeling hurt and maybe even messages received from the people you supposedly downvoted.
what also needs to be removed is the ability to see the result of the voting before you even voted. Not only this skewes the results - not seeing the result might even motivate some more people to vote at all.
although it falsely assumes that the vote was being cast honestly - which is never the case with anonymous hatevoters
