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2020-06-08 23:21
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
Defining big charsets

Hiya all, I'm back with more noob questions. So, I'm making a font with each letter being X*11 characters in size. X being 2-4, so variable width. I have a bitmap with all letters and I know it'll take 93 with equal char packing. The problem is, CharPad has a limit of 7x7 characters for tiles and I don't know any other programs that would let me do tiles from a bitmap (with automatic indexing). Do I need to do this by hand or write my own tool, or is there something that can do this?

Bottom line: I need a proggy that'll let me organise an indexed bitmap into tiles of 4*11 size (or preferably variable size). If the same proggy does the indexing too, even better. Does such thing exist?
2020-06-08 23:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11504
Sounds like the type of tool everyone of us must write at least once :o)
2020-06-08 23:46
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 745
Personally, if you have variable width, I would convert to 1x11 chars... depending on your font you might find that if you store strips of chars you’ll have duplicates there too.
2020-06-08 23:52
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11504
or make tiles and rle pack strips of those :)

it all depends on what you want to do with it at the end
2020-06-09 00:54
TWW

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 553
Just make a charmap with 4 x 11 x # of characters (the 1 x 11 still takes 4 x 11). You can then easily extract the charmap from the … charmap. letter A = 11 x 4 x 1, B = 11 x 4 x 2 etc.

Then you just make a table for the variable width which cuts off the "less than" 4 chars wide characters.
2020-06-09 07:58
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
Good ideas on how to do the indexing on my own, thanks. So it seems there's no specialised tool (yet) to do this...
2020-06-09 10:46
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5118
Mega Logo Converter V1.2

Heigh-Ho Converter V1.0

these can convert a bitmap to charset+ screen. heigh ho can even fix a color to a bitpattern.
2020-06-10 08:59
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
Thanks for the suggestions. I decided to write a C# program to do the reorganising of data and indexing, that way I have full control over the final result.
2020-06-10 13:26
Walt

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 47
Charset-Maker V1.0 was made for this exact scenario...
2020-06-10 20:45
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 526
I'd use pixcen.
2020-06-10 21:28
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 236
PixCen is great for defining not only big screens, fonts, scrolling images and other things (animations). Use it!
 
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