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2005-07-06 19:05
Nightlord
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weighted average?

ok something i just noticed when i was voting for alih.

the guy has 6 9's and 3 8's and a 1 from a downvoter. his weighted average turns out to be 7.7.

now if we took the arithmetic average. it would be
(6 x 9) + (3 x 8) + 1 = 79 divided by 10 would be ~ 7.9

so the weighted average function was supposed to be able to recognize downvoting and perform better than arithmetic average. I say something is wrong.

not only the real average should have been somewhere in high 8's, but also the csdb function works even worse than the arithmetic average.

am i making a calculation mistake or something?
2005-07-07 07:16
Perff
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I can see how that looks strange.

I just took a look at the algorithm that calculates the rating, and I found a little thing that might be an improvement.

Now the rating is 8.5, which should be a lot better than 7.7. :)
It's still not the perfect 8.6666666666... as it should be if you removed the 1, and made a regular average, but at least it's close. More (real) votes will bring it even closer.

I recalculated the rating for all entries in CSDb, and my little alteration had no effect on the top entries in the charts. It only had an effect on entries with few votes where there was some very extreme votes, like in this case.
2005-07-07 07:38
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
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Quote: I can see how that looks strange.

I just took a look at the algorithm that calculates the rating, and I found a little thing that might be an improvement.

Now the rating is 8.5, which should be a lot better than 7.7. :)
It's still not the perfect 8.6666666666... as it should be if you removed the 1, and made a regular average, but at least it's close. More (real) votes will bring it even closer.

I recalculated the rating for all entries in CSDb, and my little alteration had no effect on the top entries in the charts. It only had an effect on entries with few votes where there was some very extreme votes, like in this case.


no effect? :) Perff finally managed to kick Crossbow and Graham out of the top 3 coders :DD
2005-07-07 07:41
Perff
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Hmmm... oups! :) Missed that. hmm.. checking..
2005-07-07 07:43
WVL

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Quote: Hmmm... oups! :) Missed that. hmm.. checking..

why check that? :) I like it ;) now they have to come up with another cool demo to gain some points :)
2005-07-07 07:47
Perff
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Just checking if my alteration made people with only bad votes get a rating of 15 or something. ;P

But except for the two people with very few votes (always hard to do a good calculation on few data), I can't see that the rating calculated is unfair, so Graham & Crossbow better shape up! ;);)
2005-07-07 16:00
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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It's still a bit odd to see a MacGyver in the Cracker charts, though he is a pr manager (with 1.7 as vote)..
2005-07-07 16:18
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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I guess the charts on CSDB can only be taken as serious as those who lodged the votes to begin with. ;)

Charts these days are a laugh, a real shame some old-style scene chart/website is not compiled/created. It may stir some competition or provoke some motivation.
2005-07-07 17:01
Nightlord
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there needs to be a present chart like it is supposed to be on diskmags. a chart where someone who has not released anything for a certain time should be left out of.
2005-07-07 20:14
Celtic
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i think instead of 5 votes a production, person or group should get 10 votes to be entered in the charts. there are enough users nowadays, and someone with only 5 votes usually ends up at a place where they dont belong.
2005-07-08 06:52
Perff
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Quote: i think instead of 5 votes a production, person or group should get 10 votes to be entered in the charts. there are enough users nowadays, and someone with only 5 votes usually ends up at a place where they dont belong.

I though about something similar. This would make the charts a bit more realistic, but on the other hand a lot of entries will be removed from the charts. (The ones with 5-9 votes)
Anyone against the idea?
 
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