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2016-04-04 21:14
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1922
Change of rules - What kind of Events belong into the Database

<Post edited by Count Zero on 6/4-2016 19:12>

Quite a while ago the mod team started a general discusion on updating the CSDb rules regarding several aspects. To start off "slowly" we started by finding an agreement on changes towards "Meetings" (Parties!). The result can be found at https://csdb.dk/help.php?section=rules under Section V Paragraph 10.

Under 1. we added "C64" to point out that there is a strong desire towards this special 8bit machine. Point 2. was reworded slightly to be more precise.

Both points combined lead to surely debatable combinations and entries but basically it _IMHO_ boils down to:

- defining "historical" regarding C64 scene content and events
- the value of releases

For the "historical" part we have choosen to start off at 1st of January 2000 (to show how liberal we actually are) ending on the 1st of January 2016. You guess right. We found tons of entries without releases and pages requiring a definite update. Overall a quick glance was taken at about 500 of the nearly 2500 "meetings" revealing a horrible picture:

- about 15-20% of the entries simply don't deserve the entry here unless a release gets added (meeting in a pub to spend money on beer is _NOT_ making scene history!)
- MANY of the added links don't work anymore and it is beyond our understanding why http://sil.ly.ip.addy/party.html suddenly doesn't work anymore...
- entries with no linked releases AND only 2-3 sceners attending. This excessive info won't turn the meeting entry into an entry of historic relevance at all - not now and not in the far future really. Entries with no linked releases and MANY sceners attending? Where is at least some party report? YOU SCENERS maintain the database and your entries! It is not up to anyone else to report on how the meeting turned out!


So, the following 61 events were deleted. You can currently not access them. We will restore them on request: meaning "you found the missing release" to be added to that particular entry is one of few reasons to do so. Yes, this MEANS you can finally dig out the disk you saved the scrolltext on at $party, link it to the intro screen and release something!

The list below also means pure drama!


Type: Internal Meeting
Held between: 1 January 2000 and 1 January 2016

Wrath Designs Minibreak 2004
Villa Bellocchio
TRIAD Epiphany 2012
Tcp01
Cosa Nostra Meeting #1 - 2008
X'2006 Afterparty
Focus meeting #5
Focus Meeting #6
fuzikix meeting #1
Klr01
10 Print "Hello World!"
Arise Demomeeting 3.0
Arsenic + Friends Meeting / Hamburg 2014
The Barn 5
TKH
Stonehead Secret EHEC-Meeting
Swiss Pirates Reunion 2002
Swiss Pirates Reunion 2010
TGH 6
Sthd friday night v1109
Silicon Ltd. Meeting #1
Schlimeisch 2003
ROTY Awards 2009
Schlimeisch 2002
Project Amundsen 2008
Project Amundsen 2005
Out of Güll 2010
Makrel & Data 2014
Kraze Meeting 12/2007
Koling Birthday Party 2006
Danish Gold New Years Party 2001/2002
Danish Gold Internal Party Feb 2002
Cascade Meeting 2008
Camelot (K)olding Meeting 2011
Arsenic Elite Mactron Investigation Conference Analyzation
Plushmeeting Zeitlarn 2015

...to be continued (too many links)...
2016-04-04 21:14
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1922
<Post edited by Count Zero on 6/4-2016 20:14>

...more...

Type: LAN Party
Held between: 1 January 2000 and 1 January 2016

Remedy 2004
TRAX 2000
Birdie 10
Birdie 11
Birdie 12
Birdie 13
Birdie 14
DreamHack Winter 2002
Dreamhack Winter 2005
Flashparty '00
Flashparty '01
Flashparty '04
Play Expo 2013


Type: C64 Only Party
Held between: 1 January 2000 and 1 January 2016

Back in Time Live 2007
Back In Time Live 2013
C64 Revival Party 1
C64 Revival Party 2
C64 Revival Party 3
C64 Revival Party 4
Dutch Sprite 2001
Commodoremania 2015 Compo
Out of Orderia 2005
Out of Orderia 2007
Samar Meeting 2016

Now we let the drama and discussion begin. We feel there are some entries which will make you go YIEK!
2016-04-05 05:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
Quote:
Type: LAN Party

why does that even exist?
2016-04-05 05:50
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924
<Post edited by Moloch on 10/4-2016 20:01>

Agreed, LAN Party category should be removed..
2016-04-05 11:48
Zeldin

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33
As this affects my group, I only want to point out, that I agree on what Count Zero wrote and I fully support the decision of the moderation team. So no drama from me, sorry :-) About the "Cascade Meeting 2008": not that it is of much interest, but we were really working on a demo on this meeting. Of course, and as always, we failed to finish it, though. I am still faithful, that we will release at least some of the remains... ahem, well... someday.
2016-04-05 18:34
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1922
Zeldin: I am sure with nowadays speed on packing tools you'll easily master the release soonish. Just let us know about restoring your entry so the release, party report and converted slide show of images taken back then can be added.

Please do not create a new entry! Would just raise the ID without need :)
2016-04-05 18:47
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
Just release anything.

Crap scroller, PETSCII screen, etc.

And then your meeting belongs to c64 scene legacy according to CSDb nazi mods.
2016-04-05 20:36
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4720
Quote: Just release anything.

Crap scroller, PETSCII screen, etc.

And then your meeting belongs to c64 scene legacy according to CSDb nazi mods.


What's your problem, Cresh? Nazi mods? And speaking of releasing stuff, well, that comes from the right person.
2016-04-05 20:55
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
Calm down boys! It's only d.a.t.a.! Mods are always nazis and users are always whiners. That's a natural law. Just look at what happened with Gpz when he stopped being a mod :D
2016-04-05 21:57
Isildur

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275
Yay, the most important issue of CSDB will be fixed, at least!
Thanks God!

Where's editing posts and voting issues on that most important things to fix list?
2016-04-05 22:15
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924
<Post edited by Moloch on 6/4-2016 00:28>

Quoting Isildur
Yay, the most important issue of CSDB will be fixed, at least!
Thanks God!

Where's editing posts and voting issues on that most important things to fix list?

Now that you've whined about it those two will go back to #19 and #20 on the list. Happy? ;)

Nobody on the staff reads this comment and says "Oh boy! Someone has whined and bitched for the 1000th time, we better get working on that immediately!".

BTW - "voting issues" isn't a topic of discussion for the staff
 
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