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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 625 |
C64GFXDb
I'd like to announce C64GFXDb (name is subject to change).
In the simplest terms, I plan for this to be something similar to HVSC but for graphics. Primarily, a ZIP file download of as much C64 scene and non-scene graphics as can be collected - but also backed up by a website presentation.
v0.05 download is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rk8lhbt5lsaolfc836ql6/C64GFXDb-v..
And a WIP website is here: https://c64graphicsdb.netlify.app/
There's a lot to do to get it all into nice shape .. my todo list is quite long already.. for example:-
Collection (ZIP etc)
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- sort something out for sceners who used multiple handles .. these aren't handled well right now .. plus I seem to have a bug in my database code that pushes older names into "unsorted"...
- ensure that duplicates are removed
- favour a single palette for all, and a better compressed image format (eg. GIF) .. it's then easy to convert these to different palettes later
- ensure all images are a consistent size (multi-screeners can be different in size in the direction of scroll of course)
The Website
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- I don't have a main page as yet, just a nasty horrible, massive list of artist names ... this will of course improve at some point...
- for scrolling images I want to actually scroll them within their grid entry... so they'd be almost like animated GIFs (except animated GIFs are a bad idea, I've found, since they don't cleverly compress scroll animation (and so end up HUGE)
Questions
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For image dimensions I've been aiming for the same as CSDb - 384x272. This means we could lose pixels, though, as of course C64 screen can go up to 408px wide... any preferences here? I want most pictures to match so that I can setup the grid nicely without images being scaled oddly.
For such as interlace images my eventual plan was to use animated GIFs and to simply flip frames at 50fps (however many frames there are). Check out Leon's folder for a single example. Do you think this is better - or should interlace pics be given in a different form? Many of the screenshots on CSDb seem misleading to me...
Some images are animated .. where it makes sense I've added these as animated GIFs. Check out my own folder (the Turn Disk image) and Talent's folder for examples... do you think this is a good way to go?
Please, please let me know your thoughts, whether you like or hate it .. what can be done to make it better, more useful, etc etc.
Cheers! |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 625 |
Quote: How complete should the list of entries per artist be?
Rob Levy is missing a few by the looks of it :D
Cheers
Dan
Right now it will only have graphics of his that are released here on CSDb in the “C64 Graphics” category.. and where he has a Graphics credit… |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 625 |
Unless someone can convince me that this is worth continuing (and please take a look at Tom's Gallery first), I will probably just shelve this project.
I might continue for a while as a personal project .. because it's been quite interesting just getting everything together. But, being realistic, unless there's a strong desire for something like this, I don't think it's going to be worthwhile as a public project.
C64 graphics are complex .. so all that you can really have are screenshots. It's not like SID where you can link that SID into your own project - unless we're only talking about pure Koala. C64 graphics can have all sorts of sprite combinations, rasters, VIC tricks, etc etc ... So the value of the ZIP that I was creating is much much less than HVSC's SID archive.
It's been really interesting to work on, actually ... I used ChatGPT to help me create the tool. That tool scrapes CSDb, processes the images, tries where it can to unify the width/height so that more of the images are a fixed dimension, creates "collages" to be used for image previews when sharing on Facebook/Twitter, etc etc.
Really good to work on, I learnt a lot (and, yeah, I let ChatGPT teach me some of the C++ functions that i'd never used before for internet access etc), and despite AI getting a lot of bad press of late, it's honestly shown me that AI -is- 100% the future of programming, like it or not (programmers should embrace it - for now at least there's still a lot of programmer interaction required).
But, yeah, this isn't going to work as a HVSC-like thing unfortunately...
I doubt I'll release the sourcecode for it publically - I wouldn't want multiple people scraping the whole of CSDb's images with this...... |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 485 |
Interesting proof of concept.
I wouldn't put "Copyright Raistlin 2023" at the bottom on every graphicians page though as this is very misleading ;-) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3177 |
I was wondering, "wasnt' there already another gfx only repo?" then I checked: what happened to https://c64pixels.com ? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
Nice to see all images at once, instead of list if releases. just my 2 cents, clicking on an image I expect a fullscreen view, not a hop to csdb. that should be signalled to the user that he is leaving the site.
zooming the pictures on mousehover is a little too much imho, I'd just highlight the background or border around it slightly. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 625 |
Oswald, some good ideas there.
I already removed the (c) Raistlin just a few hours ago… that was really just to put “something” in my footer code - but I know it works so I just comment it out for now until I need it :-) |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2914 |
Quoting iAN CooGI was wondering, "wasnt' there already another gfx only repo?" then I checked: what happened to https://c64pixels.com ?
Yeah, that was it, I knew something like this existed before |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2914 |
https://web.archive.org/web/20110719010723/http://c64pixels.com.. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 485 |
Quoting RaistlinI already removed the (c) Raistlin just a few hours ago… that was really just to put “something” in my footer code - but I know it works so I just comment it out for now until I need it :-)
I don't know what you removed, but I was talking about this:
Maybe not a good idea in times where graphicians are already on their toes because of AI, wireing, giving proper credit etc... ;-) |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 338 |
BTW:
Jailbird did something similar back then:
The Pixelling Cow - Beta |
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