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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
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SID music software recommendations?
Hi SID freax...
I am wondering what the general opinion is with what
the most popular or most recommended piece of software
is to use to write music for the SID in 2009?
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: ... and nor have I! I currently use about 3 to 4 different versions of GT (as mad as that may sound) - and be able to sequence digital samples to play along side without any problems - but it seems to be the most comfortable for me to use as I origianly spent my early years composing music on the Amiga using trackers. To me, music editors which are too complex to get a tune out screws up the writing process for me. If i've got an idea, i want to get it out without the hassle.. GT with MIDI support would be a dream come true... Hello Cadaver? ;)
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SDI 3 has midi.
Perhaps Geir will tell what it can already do, and what is planned ? |
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Lubber
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 26 |
From the coders point of view, I would also like to know which tracker/player will use the most less rastertime? I only know of JCH NP19 (?). surely it depends on what sid-tricks are used, but beside of the JCH editor, where you can choose the player by yourself, i dont know how other trackers handle this (is there an option to switch off certain code-routines to minimize the player or at least the resulting used rastertime?
(If this has been asked /answered before just redirect me to the according thread please. |
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: From the coders point of view, I would also like to know which tracker/player will use the most less rastertime? I only know of JCH NP19 (?). surely it depends on what sid-tricks are used, but beside of the JCH editor, where you can choose the player by yourself, i dont know how other trackers handle this (is there an option to switch off certain code-routines to minimize the player or at least the resulting used rastertime?
(If this has been asked /answered before just redirect me to the according thread please.
Johnplayer uses less raster than most, and i think Ninjatracker too..
SDI 2 can turn on/off some things, this is done in the source when assembling a finished tune. |
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
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JCH NP19 uses about $0a lines, but with some optimization you can take that down to 6 lines. The other obvious choice would be streaming, of course, but that usually too mem-consuming for democoders. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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Airdance III
last part's music uses 1-2 lines of rastertime iirc. |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
Quote: From the coders point of view, I would also like to know which tracker/player will use the most less rastertime? I only know of JCH NP19 (?). surely it depends on what sid-tricks are used, but beside of the JCH editor, where you can choose the player by yourself, i dont know how other trackers handle this (is there an option to switch off certain code-routines to minimize the player or at least the resulting used rastertime?
(If this has been asked /answered before just redirect me to the according thread please.
HardTrack composer uses very low rastertime (check later Shogoon tunes) but unfortunatelly, as for the tracker, you don't get convenient presentation of your patterns and forget about any follow-play either. |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
Jeff: Well, well ... sure, the wavetable size is somewhat small for serious multispeed biz, right. My point is tho ... I don't get why people still think of goat as a very limited editor/player. Some very essential features (for me anyway) like switching filtertype/cutoff/resonance on any frame I want are missing in a lot of other players.
I guess Jammer, Randall, Conrad and others have proven that it is in fact a very powerful toy that doesn't have to hide behind SDI and JCH.
Just for the record: I never tried coding my own player and still know *exactly* what I am doing :)
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: Groepaz: I am curious, what are the limits of GT? Still haven't found them ;)
I could not make it bleed.
...yet... ;)
So... What do you REALLY need to compose music?
A recognisable stlye that sets you apart from all the others. That's all. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Linus: We didn't need fancy stuff like changing filtertypes during a sound back when most of use only used the old chips.
I guess we didn't need that for drums. So some older tools don't have this, ofcourse. :-)
And well, we didn't even need smart editors that didn't fit into the memory of a real c64. To begin with a MC-monitor was enough for me for coding players and doing some sort of "music" :-)
I know times have changed, which is good ofcourse. Still I am pretty happy about the features and way of doing things that I have in my latest players, atleast. Ofcourse I do spend more rastertime on my overall players. But I do customized stuff music from time to time, to please the coders a bit. :-) Once again, not saying that GT is a bad player+editor. You and others have proved that for sure. I will however continue using my own tools, as those work like _I_ want them to work. :-) |
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: I could not make it bleed.
...yet... ;)
So... What do you REALLY need to compose music?
A recognisable stlye that sets you apart from all the others. That's all.
Well, style evolves.
I had a very recognizable style in the first 2 years, when i knew nothing about anything, when i got the 4th voice on Amiga, my style changed from first tune i made on Amiga.
400 tunes later and 20 years, i have all styles and none. So i take all my tunes, and try to sort them into similar sounding groups (my CD release schedule).
For me, any tune i make, is a snapshot of the time its made in. Each tune, when listened, takes me back to the moment i made it, and all feels perfect, its nice to have ability to look back into past with total recall.
When i dream about the future, my tunes get too complicated and mixed up in style, when i live in the moment of creation, they become coherent and give meaning.
I certainly wouldnt want to release 30 blues CDs - i would get bored after #3..
Evolution is endless, learn to focus on the now, and you have a way to define who and what you are, and where. |
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