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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Downvoting
A while ago I came up with a (I think) reasonable system that voters would be split in 2 groups, anonymous & non-anonymous. The votes of the non-anonymous voters could be seen by everybody, those from the anonymous users not. The last group would then have a limitted range, let's say from 4 - 7 instead of 1-10.
I haven't heard anything about it since, but the reason I bring it up again is because it has come under my attention that 2 of my groupmembers have been seriously downvoted. And with serious I mean they (Sander & Jeroen Tel) both got a "1" twice.
I guess it can either be that some people who didn't have a clue how this board works voted so low by accident, or that they decided they didn't like the high rankings.
I guess it could also be that they really dislike the work of Sander & Jeroen but that I don't believe ;)
Either way I would like to know if the maintainers of this board already have thought up a solution for this problem. Because if you want to have a serious chart-system these things need to be taken care of.
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
Btw,. I was wondering who is the webmaster of this site? Can he join our discussion? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
How many discussion boards will we have on this downvoting thingie.
It's indeed stupid to see two guys on the fullscreen graphicians list and one on the logo graphicians list, I'd very gladly remove myself from there (but no can do).
And while we're at voting, there is a possibility to vote for various releases (e. g. music, intro, graphics, magazines, etc...), but I didn't get yet how to check those charts where they're listed, if they're listed at all(and if no, why? :)
Yeah perhaps if there would be a static top voters/commenters chart (by number of votes/comment), it would be much more fun to vote/comment (can't say I have wild and wet dreams about such a feature, but according to my circus monkeys they would gladly vote and comment a lot just to get into the charts). |
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zdzisek
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33 |
>>> And while we're at voting, there is a possibility to vote for various releases (e. g. music, intro, graphics, magazines, etc...), but I didn't get yet how to check those charts where they're listed, if they're listed at all(and if no, why? :) <<<
Click on "Top Demos" (right panel), then choose a type of chart you're interested in. Voila. :) |
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blackdroid
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 84 |
Quote: I want transparent votes! Come on, remove the anonymity already.
So because _you_ say jump everybody should ? |
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blackdroid
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 84 |
I agree with those posts in here that think the "top logo graphicians" and "fullscreen graphicians" should be removed, especially since its a pain to bring up a graphician and cast 3 different votes, atleast with the current system. Besides why arent there categories like "raster coder", "sprite coder", "jazz musician" etc ? ;) |
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blackdroid
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 84 |
Quote: downvoting (and upvoting) could be nearly completely eliminated by taking a lot of median values and building the rating based on these values only. for example, you could take 90% of the votes chosen by median criteria...
Well it seems that ppl rather want to go on a witch hunt and spend some time looking for ppl who dislike their work, so they can spend some more meaningless time bitching. Politics have unfortunately always been above Mathematics in real life. Yes I know it sucks. |
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189 |
I'm looking forward to see who voted "1" for Jack Alien as cracker. Tastes with music is a lot different, but who can say Jack Alien is a bad cracker? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Downvoting is ridiculous. Just keep it as the 'normal' C64 style of point accumilation. If people complain that groups or sceners shouldn't be in the top, tough shit, they are there for a reason.
People don't fall on mountains.
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blackdroid
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 84 |
Do they fall off mountains ? |
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69 |
Hey, I fell up a flight of stairs once...
Ba-dum-bum.
Seriously, though... I don't think you can stop downvoting completely. Let's face it: human nature sucks. Scener #1 was in competition with/didn't get along with/killed the puppy of Scener #2 and so he gets a vote of 1 because Scener #2 is an arse (except in the puppy example, because then I can understand it). It's common practice, especially in the scene.
I think that a transparent voting system will help it a lot... not so much in it's current incarnation (which is a start), in which you can choose to be transparent or not, but in a future where you either have to be transparent or you get limited votes or no vote at all. Because unless they're ready to get hate mail or ostricized, nobody's going to vote a 1 when people can point out who they are.
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