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2007-09-20 09:35
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Release id #53316 : Ikari & Talent Intro

mmmh its somehow getting out of hand. intros that werent released like this (single file, without a crack attached) shouldn't get a seperate entry.
 
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2007-09-21 07:50
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
If we intend to keep adding these intro credits, posting a link from the cracks to the intro is imperative, at least for the obvious ones just added.

Re-adding the download for just the intro is redundant. Just put a comment pointing the user to one of the cracks having the intro.

IMO we don't want the same file routinely added twice.

Also trying to differ which "Intro" type releases was actually released as separate intros from those that are credit placeholder will be a nightmare later.

EDIT: A quick and dirty solution could be to have a new release type like "Intro (credits)".
EDIT2: And even better, also add the feature to add a list of pointers to releases from a release. (listing name and release type, with an optional comment)
All sorts of useful things could be done with these two.
e.g links to Intro credits, links to previous versions (i.e the cruncher that was hacked to create this one)

2007-09-21 08:05
Rough
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I agree, crack and intro should be merged, but how?

Besides it's quicker to add a small file download to an intro entry than adding a link. Furthermore it's a nice gimmick to see in which releases the certain intro was used.

I need a cigarette.
2007-09-21 08:09
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
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Yes, but without the link, finding that afterwards is very hard. You have information about that connection and that this is not a separate release, but it is not added into the DB.
Anyone searching to find that connection later when implementing support for such links won't see it.

The worst case scenario is that all C64 Intro type releases have to be reexamined to be determined if they really were separate releases, and also which crack they belong to.
2007-09-21 08:18
Rough
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which cracks the intros belong to can be seen in the download list..
it's not too time-consuming to enter search mode and look for the game name for someone who wants to merge both entries or even add infos a new way. D

Btw, the search plug-in is quite useful. 8)

anyone: don't ask ME to enter the links in comments or something, I'm already doing plenty of stuff..
2007-09-21 08:22
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
You've made your point! :)

I agree with what you are saying, but I think maybe you should consider waiting adding more intro credit stuff before we have discussed this a bit more to work out a plan.
I'm a bit concerned that the actual link adding might get to be more work than actually adding it with links in the first place.

Btw, I've done plenty of stuff here too you know. :)

EDIT: and hopefully this will trigger Perff to do some work on these functions. ;)

2007-09-21 12:06
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
it is indeed not very smart to add intros with gamedownloads here, csdb developers should first add the possibility to link intros to games, possibly using intros.c64.org db.

now, rough, you are adding wrong data, with wrong files. it should be done properly or not at all as it just makes a big mess in the db.
2007-09-21 12:08
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
I PM'd Perff and he had an idea how to do it which seemed quite flexible, so let's hope it works out... :)
2007-09-21 13:40
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Aye, probably better to hold your horses for a while, rough. It seems there's something brewing.
2007-09-21 13:51
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
yes, something will be done to solve this. save yourself the work of adding stuff that will have to be redone anyway :)
2007-09-21 14:07
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
let's see what happens
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