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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 487 |
Event id #2636 : Crack Intro Music Competition 2017
After the geat success in 2013, the time has come for another Crack Intro Music Competition!
Several people have asked for it and finally it happens.
This time I have a skilled co-organizer with Jammer.
Competition runs from September 29, 2017, until October 29, 2017. So you have a full month to deliver your creations.
Please use this thread for questions, discussion and everything else concerning this competition.
THE RULES (same as in 2013, worked very well):
- max. playtime 1:00 min. (PAL playing speed), then repeat or fade.
- max. size: $1000 bytes (preferably located in memory at $1000-$2000)
- single speed only
- no SID model preference (should sound good on all SID models)
- must be handed in as executable format .sid or .prg (might be embedded in .t64 or .d64)
- no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
- Productions using the music might be released after the voting deadline. The voting should be focused on the music itself.
- the participating musics may not have been released or used in a public production before.
- multiple entries per musician allowed.
Deadline for entry submission is October 29, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting closes one week later at November 6, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting platform is CSDb (with all disadvantages it may have), therefore entries have to be posted here.
Entries will be ranked by weighted average of CSDb votes. Entries with the same weighted average are ranked by their percentages of 10s, 9s, etc.
No prices to win, just the fame. May the best creation win! |
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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 487 |
Rules are set for this compo. Any discussion may influence upcoming compos, but not the running one.
At least european cracking groups always tried to keep their cracks as short as possible. That's why the size of the intro also mattered and they tried to make it cool but short as well. There are lots of small intromusics far below the limit of this compo.
Single speed: Usually crack intros do hot have rastertime to waste therefore use single speed music.
Good sounding on both SID models is a challenge for the composers, accept it or leave it. Some demos have dedicated music for both SID models but there is no space for this in a tiny little intro. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Submitted my first entry 'RasterTime'. Made in Cheesecutter V2.8, and hopefully it should fit to the music compo rules :)
Short 'n sweet. I hope :) |
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Magnar
Registered: Aug 2009
Posts: 61 |
- no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
This is a silly rule! Nobody obeys it anyway.
Mermaid is animating text from her musicplayer on the screen like a intro-like presentation. Jammer is using graphical font to make his text look better, not using c64 font. People are using PSID64 with flashing color lines in a intro-like presentation...
And what the heck, according the rules it should be blank/black screens from everyone?!?!??!
Please take this rule away. |
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lft
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369 |
Hmm, indeed "blank screen" would have been a less ambiguous rule. Or "static text only, using the ROM font". Or SID format. Those are some ideas for next year's compo.
On the topic of length limit vs. just a filesize limit, I think that a "tiny music compo" (with a blank screen) would be fun. But that would be a coder's compo, or possibly a toolchain compo. I think that the 1-minute limit is a good challenge for musicians, and clearly a lot of good stuff is coming out of it.
I actually think it's more interesting to have a strict 1:00 limit (because it is so frustratingly close to 1:01.29, which is 3*8 bars in tempo 4). It helps us to break free from familiar molds.
But, well, maybe we need two compos for looping tunes. A 1-minute compo, and a filesize compo. And then maybe it is the latter that should be called a "crack intro music" compo. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
Quoting lftit's more interesting to have a strict 1:00 limit (because it is so frustratingly close to 1:01.29, which is 3*8 bars in tempo 4). It helps us to break free from familiar molds. What about tunes with different track lengths, then? Say, voice 1 looping at 1:00 sharp, voice 2 a bit before that, and voice 3 again a bit earlier? Technically it loops at 1:00, but the whole tune can go into interesting variations as it goes on. Stuff like this has been done, but not often, and possibly not to perfection. :) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Quote: - no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
This is a silly rule! Nobody obeys it anyway.
Mermaid is animating text from her musicplayer on the screen like a intro-like presentation. Jammer is using graphical font to make his text look better, not using c64 font. People are using PSID64 with flashing color lines in a intro-like presentation...
And what the heck, according the rules it should be blank/black screens from everyone?!?!??!
Please take this rule away.
I've now had people complaining to me about my tune because "no demo effects allowed!"
I really didn't see that one coming, didn't think anyone considered displaying the code and data onscreen to show the memory usage an "intro-like presentation" - to me it's more like using raster bars to show the raster time usage.
So wait, does this mean that in my next demo I can show the music code on the screen for a bit and it will shut up all those who complain about my demos having no effects...? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
It's a silly interpretation of that rule.
And personally i think that visual presentation has little to no effect on voting outcome. Especially if it's not an actual demo effect or anything obviously going for visual impact. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
Quote: - no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
This is a silly rule! Nobody obeys it anyway.
Mermaid is animating text from her musicplayer on the screen like a intro-like presentation. Jammer is using graphical font to make his text look better, not using c64 font. People are using PSID64 with flashing color lines in a intro-like presentation...
And what the heck, according the rules it should be blank/black screens from everyone?!?!??!
Please take this rule away.
Me using psid64 instead of my own (dis-)player (with my spider-sprite and song title scrolling) in this compo is *because* of that rule. |
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Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255 |
Quoting MermaidSo wait, does this mean that in my next demo I can show the music code on the screen for a bit and it will shut up all those who complain about my demos having no effects...?
Certain people will always find something to complain about, don't you worry. |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
Suggestion for next Crack intro compo.
Let the origanizers produce 1 or more "templates" for crack intros. Where the logo is the name of the compo and the scroll text contains the song title, composer and song details.
Then let the composers choose which of the templates to compose for and then we have a lot of similar "intros" where we can see how the music feels with that particular intro.
... or as suggested, we could also just go "black" but that makes some really boring screenshots for CSDB.dk :-)
Also if we specify it should sound good on 6581, please lets us agree on WHICH REVISION we are talking about. :-)
I still love the idea of this compo, so dont get me wrong here.
I might even have more tunes up my sleves, if people start to vote on tunes. |
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