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2004-11-13 19:28
Monte Carlos

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 355
Church of C64

What is this Church of C64 thing about?
It makes me suspicious, because they come up with
a very hirarchical organisation and seem to introduce
"Pay members" again.

Monte Carlos
 
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2004-11-21 21:05
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 332
Why does a Religion need Love ?
A God is something you pray to, and except for GWBush, most of the Time he does not answer!
2004-11-23 09:35
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
Every some years a group of Christian priests are sent two by two, randomly coupled, all over Europe bringing to whatever place they happen to the message that God loves us. They usually start their journey with no money and ask for hospitality by churches or houses. They often get refused, that’s ok since Jesus was refused too, but still supported by God. Some years ago two of them got badly refused by a priest they asked hospitality to. In that moment they were proved really hard since they had been starving for days, collecting refuses all over….time passed….this summer they got chosen together and were sent in the same place they had been before. They were despaired. When they got to the place they went again to the same priest who had refused them the time before. When he saw them he stared crying and gave them hospitality, saying he had been wishing some day they could come back so that he show them how sorry he was for the previous time.

I wrote all this because I think that God wants to make a story with each one of us. Christian religion goes hand in hand with love. In life we often experience deaths, every day, when we are refused or we suffer, etc. but God offers us a way of not dieing under these things. It is also true we are free to refuse God and think he does not care about us. God does not force us, if we want we can notice him. His greatest act of love to us was Jesus who proved that with God we can win death. He resurrected, so can we all the times we experience something that kills us (morally of course) and pray God to heal our sufferings.
2004-11-23 10:25
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476
know the power of your pills.
2004-11-23 11:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076
"Christian religion goes hand in hand with love."

u have any idea how much ppl were killed in the name of god?

that sentence sounds like a joke to me
2004-11-23 13:15
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
true, nothing more true that the Christian Church during inquisition killed many people. Humans made many crimes in the name of God and the Chruch regognized its mistakes during the last years. The Pope in the '80s asked for forgiveness for the sins the Church made to Galileo Galilei. It is also true that the Church has done so many good things, remeber Mother Teresa of Calcut and her dedication to leprose people. The point is that man is free to commit sin, but God still has love for those sinners, even if he doesn't approve their acting. Don't focus on what man did in the past, we should instead seek God in our lives, taking into account that humans may be wrong many times. The sentence "Christian religion goes hand in hand with love" refears to the relation God wants to have with us, in fact I didn't write Christian Church, due to the faulties we all know.
About the pills...I wouldn't have written these things years ago, I do now that I realized how much God acts in my life, I speak just because of my personal experience.
2004-11-24 06:46
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
yes, remember mother teresa, heres a couple of quotes of her to
remind you all


"I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself."

"Any country that accepts abortion is the poorest of the poor"

and always remember:

"Once that living love is destroyed by contraception, abortion follows very easily"



2004-11-24 07:20
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3038
Quote: yes, remember mother teresa, heres a couple of quotes of her to
remind you all


"I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself."

"Any country that accepts abortion is the poorest of the poor"

and always remember:

"Once that living love is destroyed by contraception, abortion follows very easily"





Veeeery evil quotes. Who is next? Pope? Actually this topic is about "Church of C64" and not about atheists versus believers, liberals versus conservatives etc.etc. I would rather reccomend 1. lock it or 2. stop wasting time solving fundamental differencies between different views on this world. I don't care about gay marriages. I think that contraceptives are important. I accept that abortions are unavoidable. ...and I believe that human stupidity infinite. P.S.: I'm christian catholic.
2004-11-24 07:58
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
To Hollowman:The problem, I think, is that as long as people are said that God loves us, almost everybody is ok, but when people are offered certain life style (i.e. no abortion, no contraception) they totally refuse God. I can understand that, since whenever we are touched in important matters we defend ourselves at 360 degrees. What I’m trying to say is that there are certain issues that the Christian Church defends that are not accepted by many, but this should not preclude people from seeking God. During my life I have wrestled with these issues too, I could not understand why I was invited not to make love with my girlfriend before marriage and I hated that!!!! Still I thought I needed God to give a sense to my life. I have sought God even if I didn’t agree on everything with the Church, but I always left a door opened in my mind that in spite of my stubbornness there might be a slight chance that I might be wrong. It’s ok to argue and disagree on certain religious issues, but I think we always should consider that we might be wrong. God loves us even if we use contraception and do abortion, but He also knows these things are bad for us…..it takes time to realize this, be patient and live your life as you want, but from time to time stop and think if God wants something different from you, try to leave a door open in your heart to God, try to pray asking him to show you his will, there’s nothing that you can loose with it, it doesn’t take much effort.
2004-11-24 08:01
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
Quote: Veeeery evil quotes. Who is next? Pope? Actually this topic is about "Church of C64" and not about atheists versus believers, liberals versus conservatives etc.etc. I would rather reccomend 1. lock it or 2. stop wasting time solving fundamental differencies between different views on this world. I don't care about gay marriages. I think that contraceptives are important. I accept that abortions are unavoidable. ...and I believe that human stupidity infinite. P.S.: I'm christian catholic.

evil quotes? that depends on your own personal view. if you search the web you will notice that both pro choice and pro life sites use the very same mother teresa quotes to prove their point
2004-11-24 08:07
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3038
Quote: evil quotes? that depends on your own personal view. if you search the web you will notice that both pro choice and pro life sites use the very same mother teresa quotes to prove their point

I wonder then, what was your point. But I would rather avoid turning this to another flaming discussion.
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