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2014-06-25 08:25
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
Who needs Timanthes anywy.

First of all... Timanthes rules it's a great tool.

... but lately I started to use a method/process using Photoshop to achieve 8bit pixel art. The technique gives you control over everything from dithering to color rams plus all PS tools/filters.
IMHO the results are amazing. I think It could be a ultimate converting tool or more precisely a great tool for prototyping/sketching.
The only problem for demoscene could be that results are IMO so good it's hard to tell if it's wired or not.

Take a look:
http://crrnpixels.tumblr.com/post/89843863323/using-photoshop-f..
To convert picture made by Made it took me 10 minutes.

more examples here
http://crrnpixels.tumblr.com/

Please keep in mind that in the examples on the blog no single pixel was put by me. All magic was done by Photoshop.

In next few days I'll post more on my blog describing the method itself.
 
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2015-02-27 19:29
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 504
It is only art if it is underlined with a huge amount of sermon to explain it.
2015-02-27 19:39
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946
Quoting Bitbreaker
It is only art if it is underlined with a huge amount of semen to explain it.


So typical.
2015-02-27 19:44
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Dear cArrion of pEnsion ScheMe group (ESM for short), you are definately getting old and your sight is wearing down. There was a ';)' at the end...

I personally consider a lot of demoscene art - 'real' art. Some is art because of the form, some because of the content or meaning behind it. Some both. I do not limit it to graphics - same goes for demos and music. For example, I try to put meaning behind most of my SID music, because it is important for me to say something.

Similarily to wire-job discussions, I hate most SID covers (own work included) and SIDs with lifted melodies/hooks.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't feel offended or disrespected.
2015-02-28 09:59
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 447
@Carrion, I understand your point of view.

Personally, I try to avoid self deception and becoming deceived, cynic that I am.

This means that a copy of a picture is a copy of a picture, borrowed motif is a borrowed motif etc. It is ok, as long as authors are honest about such things and no work magically becomes art just because someone spent a lot of effort in converting it by hand or simply just because it was a huge personal achievement. An honest compliment for a good conversion job is to say that it is a good conversion job.
2015-03-09 09:40
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
well, imo methods for reducing generic worksteps during the creativity process are always welcome. i also like the 'dither' approach, because this is the usual flaw of conversion tools - though timanthes is advanced in this case.

i am with pal though (as he said in the scarlet comments). those results are more like a basis similar to outlines or color-reduced scans and i'd also spend dozens of hours to get a picture look like as it was planned.

personally i do not believe that my pics or workflow would improve significant, but it is definitely interesting for preparing sketches. guess many artist could save much time here. nethertheless i hope this does not lead to another copy-era with a flood of rushed postprocessed photographs.
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