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2006-08-30 23:47
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Who did Killer Games?

This 2001 release - Killer Games - has puzzled me ever since it's release. Obviously it's made by someone who knows his way around a C-64, that's for sure. Just check out the "fire" in the intro, the spritestretchers, the bordercode and the spriteball-effect in the namechoosing screen. He is credited as Beerlord, but that doesn't ring a bell to me.

I'm quite sure that its origin is swedish, to judge from the names found in the intro and the highscore (Umm... Thomas Q, Carl Bildt, Fredrik, Niklas, Kukdavid, etc.) and the greeting to Talon (old member of Paragon).

Some suspicions goes towards old members of Paragon, DCS or Rizing, Quan (who released games under fake-handles before) or just any old swedish scener who got himself a X-1541 cable from STA during the summer of 2001.

The reason why i'm really is interested in this production is because the music really is awesome. Can anybody identify the player? Can anybody give me a lead on this strange production? Swedes?
 
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2006-08-31 06:02
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
I have a slight hint about who made it, not sure if they want me to post it..
2006-08-31 06:47
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Private Message it then, Henrik. :-)
2006-08-31 07:10
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
you have mail.
2006-08-31 07:30
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Iopop had a quite elaborate guess, I think, but I believe I am closer in my suspicions. I've got an increasing trail of evidence leading me to the tracks of the prime-suspect. Right now it's too early to give any comment on this mystery, but know that I will do everything which stands in my power to bring this case to justice. :-)
2006-08-31 08:53
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Manfred Trenz did some killer games for sure :)
2006-08-31 10:19
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
I think we can put Manfred Trenz out of the list of suspects. :-)

Right now, my list of suspects are narrowed down to about two people. If anyone of you, good at musicroutines, could take a peek at http://www.c64.org/HVSC/GAMES/G-L/Killer_Games.sid and tell me what the player looks like, i'd be happy.
2006-08-31 11:13
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
It's a CGKOTY player! :-o
That already eliminates all AEINRW suspects, only leaving a handful thousand... ok ok I'm off to work again, before you all put me on ignore... ;-)
2006-08-31 13:43
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
Yes, it's a CGKOTY player. :)

And yes, it seems to be coded by a "clc lda adc"-coder rather than a "lda clc adc"-coder :)

The psid file consists of two related players (perhaps identical, I didn't have a close look), none of which I could recognise at first sight, so I decided to spend a few minutes searching for signature code snippets.

I can report that I found nothing in HVSC #45 that matched these code snippets. Sorry!

/Stefan
2006-08-31 13:44
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
Should we be looking for PAL or NTSC people? The music routine has some custome coding to the job. Compare the initialisation routine and searching for the hex pattern doesn't yield too many results with many highly improbable.
2006-08-31 13:46
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
Stryyker: I'd definitely say PAL people. (the CGKOTY is a PAL indicator, for example)
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