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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Release id #236084 : Yes, you are all wrong
But is it the "cultural marxism" what this prod refers to?
My understanding is that it's a actually an American conspiracy theory. From Wikipedia:
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The term "Cultural Marxism" refers to a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which misrepresents the Frankfurt School as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics, and political correctness.
The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via a planned culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and seeks to replace them with culturally liberal values.
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quoting spider-jthe only way we can progress is when we accept that we have to figure out ways of coexistence even with folks whose ideas, religions, way of life differ from ours. And that is *not* an easy task.
What I miss in this free flow of thoughts is the rejection of the idea (or rather the lack of it) that perhaps there are "tasks" impossible to accomplish and the conflict might be inevitable not despite coexistence, but because of it. Especially when doctrines actively tell their followers to hate act against the unindoctrinated. While we, as a society, may evolve intellectually and culturally, dogmas are set in stone.
This is the paradox described by a social philosopher, Karl Popper. In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance (which effectively reduces tolerance to a doctrine). In a truly free society, the society will be experiencing intolerance. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
I think I perhaps wrote this before, but I'll repeat it anyway.
Antifascism is not an ideology but a civilizational achievement. This lesson came with a hefty pricetag. Our parents know this well. |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Every set of ideas and ideals is, by definition, an ideology. However, not all ideologies are based on ethical principles. |
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Bacchus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 156 |
Disregarding the politics here, I must say the crafting of the picture is simply great.
/Bacchus |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@F7sus4
Let me explain what I mean. The wheel, once invented and perfected is not an ideology. Yes, there is a whole set of ideas behind the invention of a wheel, so by the short definition you gave, a wheel could be defined as ideology. But it’s not. It’s a civilizational achievement.
When fascism was new, civilization didn’t know what to make of it. It tried to be tolerant. This resulted among all else in Holocaust, WWII and huge loss of human life. Both modern and opposing ‘ideologies’ at the time - freemarket capitalism and soviet socialism saw in real time with their own eyes what fascism leads to. So they forged an antifascist alliance and rooted out fascism at great cost. Ergo, antifascism is a civilizational achievement. It’s not a mere set of abstract ideas, it’s both a tested solution, tested in physical world, and a document, a warning for the future. It says, look, it’s all documented, it’s all “been there done that”, fascism is not the way and should be avoided at all cost, by use of force if necessary. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Quoting CruzerAnd many people who are in favor of wokeness and political correctness use it as an excuse for censorship. You're not helping anyone, you're just tyrants.
Any specific reason why you are calling me a tyrant here? Dude, I don't think we have ever met and talked in person. You are proving my point for me.
By the way, living in a post-socialist country I know a thing or two about censorship - do you? How many people went to jail in Denmark in the last century for expressing dissent?
People from countries like USA or most Western Europe that are talking about things like communism, socialism, "regimes", tyranny etc should kindly shut the fuck up sometimes. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
this is the first time I think a topic should be closed. make demos not war :( |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
And this is the first time in a long time when I agree with Oswald ;) |
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Isildur
Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275 |
Good news :)
Jetan is back on The Scene (as a Samar member) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
Quoting IsildurGood news :)
Jetan is back on The Scene (as a Samar member)
Nice. Watching your BCC release right now on stream. I hope you guys convinced him to losen his tinfoil hat belts. *scnr* ;-) |
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