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2024-12-09 23:04
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
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Release id #248155 : Hiking Home for Christmas

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2024-12-14 19:35
astaroth

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 8
Actually, I didn't want to comment any further because I see such discussions as wasted time, but I'm a bit annoyed by it all and so I'm going to make my last post about these things.
I was away from the demoscene for 14 years because of family. I had already left the C64 scene in 1993 because the groups started to fight each other. After all that time I felt like doing something again and it started with “Fallen Heroes” as a tribute to lost friends.
For my part, I can say that I make all the graphics myself and don't use AI. If you use AI or your own mistrust to check whether I have created my images with AI, you are welcome to do so, I am honestly no longer interested. I do it all because I enjoy it. In the future, I'll handle it in such a way that I'm no longer interested in other opinions because they may be based on a false foundation. If people don't trust me, why should I trust the judgment/opinion of others?
From now on, I will no longer rate any work and ignore the entries for my releases. And no, I won't record videos just to satisfy others, because I work on different computers and if I always have to invest time beforehand to prepare the recording for 5-10 minutes of pixelling in between, then it takes the fun out of it. And it's a shame that hardly anyone understood Critikill's gag with “you're AIrested”.
Let's see, maybe I'll move away from the C64 stuff again and go back to the PC, because not much seems to have changed here.
2024-12-14 19:54
astaroth

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 8
Quote: Quoting 4gentE
Not that they ceased releasing. I hope it doesn't get to that.

Some people are only submitting pictures for 3 parties next year...


Yes, you're right, because for more I don't have time, because I have a job and a family.
It's a hobby not the single point of my life.
2024-12-14 19:56
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 83
2cts:

- actually demanding from artists to record themselves to validate their works is nothing else than putting them under surveillance. This is the Demoscene, not some Orwellian nightmare club.

- even videos can and will be faked easily. YouTube is full of digital artists doing exactly that.
2024-12-14 20:31
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292
Quote: 2cts:

- actually demanding from artists to record themselves to validate their works is nothing else than putting them under surveillance. This is the Demoscene, not some Orwellian nightmare club.

- even videos can and will be faked easily. YouTube is full of digital artists doing exactly that.


AMEN
2024-12-14 20:51
CopAss

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 21
Quoting LMan
2cts:
- actually demanding from artists to record themselves to validate their works is nothing else than putting them under surveillance. This is the Demoscene, not some Orwellian nightmare club.
- even videos can and will be faked easily. YouTube is full of digital artists doing exactly that.

The Sarge doesn't make a problem of it, maybe because he doesn't cheat!:D
https://www.youtube.com/@JoachimLjunggren/videos
they even developed a fucking drawing program (albertpixels.com) that will do the timelapse for you automatically!:D
it's fucking hard to fake a timelapse, that's why cheaters are hysterical...
2024-12-14 20:52
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Just a few questions. Please don't get offended. Who is "demanding" that artists record themselves? Who is even in a position of enough power to "demand" anything in the demoscene? Where are his/her levers of power to enforce this "demand"? Are you sure you're not being a little paranoid here?

It seems to me like some of You want to act out some kind of immature "freedom fighter" fantasy/LARP/cosplay so bad that you actually invent some bad actors taking your "freedoms". Just so that you can shout "WE WANT TO BE FREE!". It's ridiculous. If you don't grow up when due you become a monster.

P.S. This Orwellian this and Orwellian that is so misplaced it's not even laughable.
2024-12-14 21:15
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
We get it man. Why you're claiming timelapses can be faked.
You developed gfx skills just when AI became a thing by coincidence. Orwellian my ass.

https://imgur.com/a/KFIxJMr
2024-12-14 21:30
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292
To everyone:

Your creativity is only yours, you do not owe anyone any explanations. Keep creating for yourself just because you love it, it even brings joy into your life. Most importantly, do it because you can and will create what you envision. That is really all that matters.

You do not owe anyone "proof" (outside a competition with set/fixed rules). Your process and passion are enough.

At least they are for me.
2024-12-14 21:39
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Well said.

And if I may add: Your passion and will for creating fake workstages is extraordinary.

No one demands anything, no one will disqualify you from anything, it's just that now everyone knows how you operate.

Merry Christmas.
2024-12-14 21:50
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 292
really? how?

Should I go to a new pixel paint software that has built in recording just to satisfy you? You are actually total out of control here.

PS: have I ever created fake workstages for anyone? You are absolutely a special case now.

your PAL
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