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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Release id #247799 : Bowhunter
"I can honestly say that all these pixels has been carefully selected" - Why say this when it obviously looks like it's not the case? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Seeing all the crap that is being added - i wouldn't be so sure about it |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
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Would the scene like it if I started scanning all my family photos from the old days and uploading each one as a graphic release?
This is actually a very good Q. CSDb typically stores every “scene” release.
What happens if a scener does something like this:-
Week 1: creates a new website and hosts 10 pictures. Scans of photos, as you suggest, and converted to PRG
Week 2: adds 20 more
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Week 10: posts 500,000 PRGs of scanned photos
Will CSDb flood itself with all these? Suddenly we’ll have a “well, ok, we shouldn’t database -everything-…
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This is offtopic but I'm glad somebody brought it up. I've been thinking about this and often discussing it for the past year. The capacity of "AI" to shovel large volume of semi-automated crap is immense. It's monstruous. Websites like CSDb that aim to "document" EVERY release are especially vulnerable to being flooded. If we don't plug the holes (errr "gatekeep") this will happen sooner or later. Then, if I may try and predict, the only way out will be to quit counting gfx as "releases" and keep only demos. That is until AI made demos hit. Yay. |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337 |
@Raistlin: so i guess you havent found IT yet :)
@Hedning: what if someone folowed your steps, but created antihuman art commando and started downwothing all the "handcrafted art"...
@Sander: Cepelia definetely is folk, not so sure about art :) That would depend on a definition.
i like this one:
Art is all creation made in a search of beauty or self expression. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Quote:i like this one:
Art is all creation made in a search of beauty or self expression.
Here's one of my own if I may: Art is what galleries say is. |
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Dr. TerrorZ
Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 17 |
After post-modernism, crisis in art, and de-colonization, in theory there shouldn't be left any difference between "high" and "low" art, and anyone from an institutionalized art field looking down on demoscene would be wrong.
In theory.
What I'm maybe trying to say is that having demoscene as art/folk art, wouldn't probably achieve much.
Actually, I think my experience with demoscene has been more useful in seeing various art scenes as somewhat similar to demoscene.
They are largely based in people sharing an interest, coming together in some materially organized ways (exhibitions etc) and bitching about who did what first. Only when the history books are written, it all seems very lofty and idealistic. |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337 |
Quoting Dr. TerrorZWhat I'm maybe trying to say is that having demoscene as art/folk art, wouldn't probably achieve much.
Yet some morons signed demoscene as Unesco heritage, and are sucking donations because of that... |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 62 |
Btw, here is the Shutterstock image (and there are more pics in that style, looking forward to the releases to come):
https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-illustration/portrait-fan..
In the original the huntress aims to the right side. This makes some difference since a right-handed person would hold the bow with the left and pull with the right, as in Digital Storm's version on Shutterstock.
It also appears to me that Magnar's work depicts a person of color instead of the red-haired Nordic type often associated with these female hunter archetypes. So the bowhunter release deconstructs the original image by adding subtle hints towards minorities and greater diversity. We should appreciate that. </comedy> |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Quote:and there are more pics in that style, looking forward to the releases to come
https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-illustration/native-ameri..
🤣🤣🤣 |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337 |
I do believe this cosplay is based on Sylvana Windrunner from Warcraft universe by Blizzard Entertainment. Unfortunately there are so many fan arts it is hard to find original pictures to link :)
Ok, found some screenshots of ingame model: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F8vkl..
Seems like a Wrath of the Lich King version.
Everything is a remix :) |
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Dr. TerrorZ
Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 17 |
Quote: Quoting Dr. TerrorZWhat I'm maybe trying to say is that having demoscene as art/folk art, wouldn't probably achieve much.
Yet some morons signed demoscene as Unesco heritage, and are sucking donations because of that...
Now now, I know some of those morons :) But I don't know anyone who got money out of it. I think it was more about culture, coding side of demoscene and the practices around it, such as demoparties and diskmags and correspondence, and less about recognizing demoscene gfx as art. But there demoscene was kind of put in the same company with folk artsy things.
If demoscene pictures are brought out as "art", it's quite clear that scene appreciation is not very compatible with art discourses. That project of AI generating 300000 pictures, flooding and destroying the CSDb might be more interesting to art studies.
What do I know, even some kind of ironic conversion job of a fantasy art piece might be more interesting for art studies than #1 best voted scene images. |
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