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2024-04-28 14:14
niallquinn

Registered: Apr 2024
Posts: 9
Back after 35 years, which "mega" demos will blow my socks off!!

Hi,

Apart from the current Top 10 Demos, Next Level, Mojo, Coma Light 13, and so on. What have I missed?

When I left the 64 in 87 for the ST and Amiga, 64 demos were just an intro, scroller, press space and that was it.

What I find is amanzing is the ones I've mentioned above, are like Trackmos/Megademos on the Amiga - I didn't even know that was possible!

Anyway, which "megademo" is a must have?

Thanks, hope everyone is well.
2024-04-28 14:19
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
After all that time, why not just go through the CSDb top 100 demos or so? =)
2024-04-28 17:33
Scrap

Registered: Jan 2021
Posts: 14
I agree… you can‘t go wrong by just watching at least the rest of let’s say top 50. So many great productions over the years with mindblowing stuff to see - you would really miss a lot of gems, just relying on recommendations…
2024-04-28 18:03
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 174
Being away for such a long time, you've missed a LOT. Looking at the top list, there are a lot of great demos in top 300, even in top 400. The C64 scene has been so prolific that a lot of demos that were great 20-30 years ago, and still are, barely make it to the top half a thousand. The same goes for demos which are not necessarily crowd pleasers but may tickle your particular senses exactly the right way, and you wouldn't want to miss those.

How much time do you have? My recommendation would be to begin watching from the demo ranked 400th and move up the list from there. 😁
2024-04-28 19:52
niallquinn

Registered: Apr 2024
Posts: 9
I've cenrtainly watched the majority of the top 100. I'll stick at it, and aim for 400!!!

Thanks folks! I guess it was a daft question, as we all like different things, the music, the effects, the graphics, the story, the scrollers, or just the sort of thing that says to you, "how can a 64 do that? That must have taken ages to code"!! Is it Next Level, that just a little part of it, is 100 games recreated, for a few seconds each, all with their look, and music etc. Just that idea, and coding is brilliant. Really got my 64 mojo, no pun intended, back. Like being 15 again. Trouble is staying up until 4 watching demos, when your young you can pull that off, with a few hours sleep. Doing the same, when your 52, and have to go to work shortly is taking it out of me. I'll go in tomorrow, what did you do this weekend Andrew? Well I slept for about 30 hours... :)
2024-04-28 20:12
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 629
Yeah been a long time... top 100 demos is a good start, then go through the stuff made by those groups.
2024-04-28 21:34
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
it's a case of what hasn't be done.. by decent coders who squeeze every bit of rastertime they can..

if you can't compete on that front , take the design route.. I feel thats the route for many who can code, but not to a silly level can do.

obv. music and graphics have their part to play. i'm not dismisive of that.

as for the amiga? someone didn't get the memo about sine scrollers :D
2024-04-29 08:54
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting chancer
as for the amiga? someone didn't get the memo about sine scrollers :D
Please elaborate. =)
2024-04-29 10:40
Mibri

Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 209
niallquinn - are you a mackem by any chance? :D Used to love watching Quinny and Phillips up front when I was a kid. Better times!

Anyway, as far as essential modern-ish C64 trackmos go, I think a lot of sceners (from the C64 scene and beyond) still hold Edge of Disgrace in very high regard. My personal favourite might be Old Men in Used Cars.
2024-04-29 11:16
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
And there we were, trying not to name any particular demo...
2024-04-29 14:48
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148
35 years ago even includes the 90s, so stuff long before EoD.

I'd not go for the csdb (or any other website) top list at all (this is VERY skewed really), but check the top3 (or so) of the major parties during the years, that should give you a very good overview.
2024-04-29 22:07
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2086
Quoting chatGPZ
... 35 years ago even includes the 90s...

Even late 80s if we look at
Quoting niallquinn
... I left the 64 in 87 ...

when 'Mega Demo' actually was a word :D
I was digging these a lot, so much I even bothered fixing one from 1988 some 27 years later
FHGHG aka Revolution by Agile 101% [fix]

Just kidding, seriously: Term 'Mega Demo' came out of fashion as everything's gotta be TrackMo since... well, I guess since Millennium. Personally, I'd define Mega Demo sth like any multipart demo loading from disk but without trackloader.
2024-04-30 01:03
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting TheRyk
seriously: Term 'Mega Demo' came out of fashion as everything's gotta be TrackMo since... well, I guess since Millennium.
In my book, the turning point on C-64 was as early as mid-1992.

Quoting TheRyk
Personally, I'd define Mega Demo sth like any multipart demo loading from disk but without trackloader.
And "trackloader" still doesn't make much sense on C-64, unlike Amiga where the term originates. =)
2024-05-01 11:45
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1060
Top or notable demos for each year would be a nice resource.
2024-05-01 22:44
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 174
Quote: Top or notable demos for each year would be a nice resource.

Assembly64 does it for you already with its top20 demos an top20 onefilers per year collections. To an extent though, as 'notable' and 'top ranked' are not always synonyms.

Actually the top20 demos gives you much more than just the top20 per year, which is nice.

https://assembly64.hackerswithstyle.se/assembly/index.html
2024-05-01 23:22
Wile Coyote
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 646
@niallquinn
Please watch Zeros & Ones
^_^
2024-05-02 14:26
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 228
Quote: @niallquinn
Please watch Zeros & Ones
^_^


Very impressive and stylish! I have missed this beauty before! It is unusual demo. Thanks for sharing!
2024-05-02 20:16
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
So, who's next to toot their own horn? :)
2024-05-02 21:49
niallquinn

Registered: Apr 2024
Posts: 9
Quote: niallquinn - are you a mackem by any chance? :D Used to love watching Quinny and Phillips up front when I was a kid. Better times!

Anyway, as far as essential modern-ish C64 trackmos go, I think a lot of sceners (from the C64 scene and beyond) still hold Edge of Disgrace in very high regard. My personal favourite might be Old Men in Used Cars.


Yes mate. :)
2024-05-02 21:54
niallquinn

Registered: Apr 2024
Posts: 9
Quoting Frostbyte
Assembly64 does it for you already with its top20 demos an top20 onefilers per year collections. To an extent though, as 'notable' and 'top ranked' are not always synonyms.

Actually the top20 demos gives you much more than just the top20 per year, which is nice.

https://assembly64.hackerswithstyle.se/assembly/index.html[/quo..

Yeah I've got that, made grabbbing the site very easy - Sorry for grabbing the bandwidth!!
2024-05-02 21:57
niallquinn

Registered: Apr 2024
Posts: 9
Many thanks for the help folks.

I still find it incredible.
2024-05-03 20:47
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 174
Quote: So, who's next to toot their own horn? :)

I wish more people actually would. Lots of fantastic productions that, for whatever reason, went totally under the radar and have just one or two votes, thus not making it into any lists.

This kinda warrants for its own topic though. :)
2024-05-04 10:47
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting Frostbyte
Lots of fantastic productions that, for whatever reason, went totally under the radar and have just one or two votes, thus not making it into any lists.
This kinda warrants for its own topic though. :)
Over on Pouët they call it "coup de cœur". Feel free to open a thread about them. =)

Here's tooting my own horn with a somewhat underrated (at the party, at least) demo: Minimalmo :)
2024-05-04 11:43
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 228
Quote: Quoting Frostbyte
Lots of fantastic productions that, for whatever reason, went totally under the radar and have just one or two votes, thus not making it into any lists.
This kinda warrants for its own topic though. :)
Over on Pouët they call it "coup de cœur". Feel free to open a thread about them. =)

Here's tooting my own horn with a somewhat underrated (at the party, at least) demo: Minimalmo :)


@Frostbyte i think it is good idea to make such thread. There are so many gems that were missed by many.

@Krill i was shy to ask you to blow your horn. I'm glad you did it after all.
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