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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
Releases with never-found hidden parts?
Someone told me about a hidden part in Pretzeled (Pretzeled) that hasn’t been “officially” found as yet (there’s a clue how to find it but no 100% instructions)… and it got me thinking… are there many others out there unfound..? |
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Colt45RPM
Registered: Feb 2019
Posts: 47 |
Hmmmm...how would one know? ;) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
Quote: Hmmmm...how would one know? ;)
Haha, well, like with the demo I mention, there are some where the makers have declared the parts but they’ve never been found ;p
I might be wrong by the way but I believe i was the one who found an old Tony Crowther demo on one of his games.. before joining the scene i was “employed” to make cheats/pokes for games .. which was similar to how tape games were cracked I guess (intercepting each section of a loader until the game was fully loaded). Anyway, I found an extra set of init code on whatever game it was - SYS’ing the alternate start gave the demo. AFAIK there wasn’t a way to access the demo other than SYS’ing it before starting the game. So that was a whole hidden demo…!
But anyway, I’m sure there’re other demos with hidden parts undeclared… |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
Quote: Someone told me about a hidden part in Pretzeled (Pretzeled) that hasn’t been “officially” found as yet (there’s a clue how to find it but no 100% instructions)… and it got me thinking… are there many others out there unfound..?
Well, it's a pretty obvious hint, press restore in the demo.
There are other entries that need to enter the hidden info yes.
Be aware if you write the hidden info in their demo entry, they gets their pants twised because "it was mEaNt t0 bE a sEcReT" "yoU SpOiLeD tHe FuN" and so on.
Well, fuck you guys, this is a scene database maintained by everyone with an account, and if one has extra info to enter, it will be entered, even if you don't like it. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2969 |
Who complained about hidden part info being revealed? =)
(And they should have done the hiding more properly then.)
There's an extra field for that for a reason. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
for example https://csdb.dk/release/?id=41460&show=hidden
but I had to remove others I don't remember right now due to similar complaints
I see now that after 18 years nobody entered any of the other hidden parts in it. GJ |
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The Syndrom
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 59 |
we had a hidden part in this release, and revealed it ourself as no one ever found it...
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=4837&show=hidden#hidden |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
Quote: we had a hidden part in this release, and revealed it ourself as no one ever found it...
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=4837&show=hidden#hidden
Well… that’s quite an obscure clue tbh :p
A bit more difficult than, say, Bonzai’s “boot from side 2”! |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519 |
nice topic.
I always wondered why in c64 slang those things are called "hidden parts" instead of a IMHO more appropriate and sexier "Easter eggs". |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: nice topic.
I always wondered why in c64 slang those things are called "hidden parts" instead of a IMHO more appropriate and sexier "Easter eggs".
probably because those things are called (demo) parts by default, so hidden part is a logical extension.
also probably because in other languages easter egg is not an expression for something hidden. to my ears both words and the expression to my brain is terrible.
edit: oh its ze-smasher, I will never forget those IRC times, lets play ZE game ! :D |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411 |
Quiss told me at X that there is one RFX demo left where a hidden part has not been found yet.
Given the Trivia info of it, Radio Napalm could be the candidate. Also Quiss being the creator. But I didn't dive in much deeper than running a breakpoint for keyboard action. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
Just read that there’s a hidden part in this one.. something to do with Robin Hood:
Comeback 2
Supposedly easy to find - but.. hmm.. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Just read that there’s a hidden part in this one.. something to do with Robin Hood:
Comeback 2
Supposedly easy to find - but.. hmm..
You didn't find it?
The Robin Hood archer clue was pretty obvious.
Yay Poland! :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
Then write it in the hidden parts infos. This is not a riddle game, when you know it, add the info. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Then write it in the hidden parts infos. This is not a riddle game, when you know it, add the info.
What's the secret key combo to disable your grumpy mode ;-)
Anyways, done <3 |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
Don't know if that counts but sometimes I leave stupid messages for iAN in my music releases because I know, if I don't upload the SID his sense of duty will force him to check the PRG XD
EDIT: oh, and there's a secret "skip" cheat in all No-Skip releases. But this is also not a real "hidden part".
EDIT2: oh, and of course I like it to be a "riddle game" ;-) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
I guess that any undeclared ways to obtain any result that is not documented or deviates from the normal output of the program is ok to be described in "hidden parts". |
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Quiss
Registered: Nov 2016
Posts: 42 |
Radio Napalm does not have a secret part. |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Probably 13:37 as already hinted in the comments. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
I'm not even tell you the demo |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787 |
Input 1986, although some where shown on Mibri's stream. :) |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 141 |
One of the Swedish Chef/FST's seemingly simple releases has a secret part that is world's first implementation of a certain technique. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2969 |
Can you please stop teasing, fartknockers? |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 299 |
Not hidden part per se, but there is more images tahna is being shown in one loop. Those are being shown radnomly, so you might need to run multiple loops to see them all (or visit c64gfx.com)
well, i guess it does not qualify for never found :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
jetboy: you probably forgot to specify the subject of your post. What are you talking about? =) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659 |
He’s meaning in despAIr. Not really hidden images…. But if people just watch the slideshow through once, they don’t see all the pictures. https://c64gfx.com/release/243084 |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411 |
The hidden picture in Operation Eindhoven has also not been found yet. I just posted another hint. If you like a challenge, try to find it by looking at the code. Well, unless you are BiGFooT, of course. |
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Genius
Registered: Jun 2003
Posts: 25 |
Did you already find the hidden part in Hiraeth in the Cybercity part? |
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BiGFooT
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 33 |
Quote: The hidden picture in Operation Eindhoven has also not been found yet. I just posted another hint. If you like a challenge, try to find it by looking at the code. Well, unless you are BiGFooT, of course.
Did someone summoned me?
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411 |
BigFooT: always nice to see you in action \o/ |
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Copyfault
Registered: Dec 2001
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Funny that you got triggered, Bigfoot :)
I assume you analysed the keyboard routine? Ninja told me that it's cleverly hidden, so KUDOS for cracking it!
Found that "hidden pic" myself two days ago, but only by some weird guessing and a good bag of luck! Did not care to fill the hidden part notes up to now, and somehow I wanted to wait until someone finds it by means of proper "hacking skills". Happy this happened now :) |
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BiGFooT
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 33 |
Quote: Funny that you got triggered, Bigfoot :)
I assume you analysed the keyboard routine? Ninja told me that it's cleverly hidden, so KUDOS for cracking it!
Found that "hidden pic" myself two days ago, but only by some weird guessing and a good bag of luck! Did not care to fill the hidden part notes up to now, and somehow I wanted to wait until someone finds it by means of proper "hacking skills". Happy this happened now :)
Yeah, I've analysed the routine and the tables. And what Ninja told you is right, it's cleverly hidden. It was a nice excercise to understand how it works. |
