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JSL
Registered: Aug 2003
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Richard Joseph Tribute Demo
Hello Sceners,
Because of the recent death of the innovative musician Richard Joseph, we have in
mind to code a Tribute music demo for him, Code will do NEO (Roland Hermans), with
music by Yogibear and gfx by me, JSL. If you want to support this demo with texts
about Richard, who knew him, please send them to the following Email adress:
joachim_wijnhoven@hotmail.com |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
I hope these will be Richard cover tunes |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223 |
Yes for this demo I'm planning to cover 3 Richard Joseph tunes from different platforms.
Let's hope they work out nicely! |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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I had the idea to do a tribute demo with Richard dancing to his tunes (kinda like the Hollywood Poker Pro intro), there's cool pictures of him from BITlive on Lemon and remix64
but such a demo is far beyond my coding abilities.
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223 |
Sounds like a good idea!
Just got a pm from CRD.
They are already busy making RJ tribute demo.
He said: At the moment I have got Jeff, Stainless Steel and A-Man to compose some remixes.
So JSL and I cancelled our project.
I offered to make a tune for Samar's (I reckon) project.
Maybe they can implement your cool idea?
CU!
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
ok, the best would be a music collection with all of his tunes AND then can you think of making covers. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3050 |
I think having a Richard Joseph tribute cover project (from other plattforms) and then release brand new collection would be also cool. Anyway if anyone needs help with promotion and putting things on "spotlight" just contact me. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
promotion? roman how about you writing a cover ? :) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Quote: ok, the best would be a music collection with all of his tunes AND then can you think of making covers.
Unfortunately RJ's original tunes can not be included on the demo. The reason for that is that RJ's original music player was written so bad that they suck toooo much rastertime (the player needs to be JSR'ed quite a few times to get the right speed playing.) Trying to play these with demo effects or IRQs will be impossible. :-(
Again the originals could be on the release disk still i guess. |
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DRAX
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225 |
This sounds like a really good idea for a tribute demo. RJ was a very original composer ;) |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
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Quote: The reason for that is that RJ's original music player was written so bad that they suck toooo much rastertime (the player needs to be JSR'ed quite a few times to get the right speed playing.) Trying to play these with demo effects or IRQs will be impossible. :-(
Have you ever heard about 1:1 covers in other players? ;)
Quote: Trying to play these with demo effects
I doubt that it is always necessary to play some wired demo effects... |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
personally I prefer to read a good scroller while listening to musics in a collection. The most perfect example for this is "past n present" the collection for metal. A huge interview, and personal opinions about each tune. Respect to the creators. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 945 |
8 speed music! wohaah! I can't imagine it isn't possible to speed up for instance the Barbarian music inside the player itself. I mean, setting the speed of your music by the number of calls per frame is pretty odd indeed. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Hey everyone. Just thought I'd update the news of this upcoming production....
The tribute music demo is up to now 60-65% complete. We still need some more text about Richard Joseph from anyone who likes to help and also a few more covers/remixes of his tunes.
BTW, I know it has been a couple months since the tragedy, but I unfortunately had to move apartment during the easter holidays and that stopped me from coding the demo for quite some time. However, as it is almost complete, there's no point in wasting the whole thing.
Anyway, if you'd like to help still, please PM me and let me know.
Cheers!
Owen.
EDIT: Here is a summary of what is currently complete (I won't be giving out credits as that will spoil the release!):
- Main Screen (roughly 80% done)
- Graphics (90% done)
Songs...
- Defender of the Crown (title) remixed
- International 3D Tennis remixed
- Wicked remixed
- Rimrunner remixed
- Robocod (Amiga) remix (unsure completion)
- Sensible Soccer opening tune (90% complete)
and... 1 tribute text!!!! :P
so as you see, we need more text! |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Nice :) I look forward to the demo. Richard deserves this kind of respect :) |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Quote: Unfortunately RJ's original tunes can not be included on the demo. The reason for that is that RJ's original music player was written so bad that they suck toooo much rastertime (the player needs to be JSR'ed quite a few times to get the right speed playing.) Trying to play these with demo effects or IRQs will be impossible. :-(
Again the originals could be on the release disk still i guess.
What would happen if you'd run the music routine in the main program, on the free time you get from IRQ effects? |
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SIDWAVE
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How do you make such a loop stable, so the music plays as it should ? |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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Of course depending on how the time taken by IRQ's changes, it won't be perfectly exact, but it probably wouldn't make audible difference. You could use flags set by IRQ's, or simple $d012 compares. |
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Cybernator
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 154 |
Also, you can allow the interrupt routine to be interrupted. :) In the IRQ routine where you call the music player, first acknowledge the IRQ, setup the next IRQ routine in the chain, do a CLI (don't forget to ack first !!!), and continue the routine normally. You might also want to use a flag so that the player doesn't get called twice in succession (ie. before it does an RTS). This is just a safety precaution, to avoid an eventual crash. Still, if the main program is free, just do it as Cadaver said. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Quote:
Cadaver wrote:
Of course depending on how the time taken by IRQ's changes, it won't be perfectly exact, but it probably wouldn't make audible difference. You could use flags set by IRQ's, or simple $d012 compares.
Cybernator wrote:
Still, if the main program is free, just do it as Cadaver said.
This would be no problem if the main screen has free rastertime, but my situation alot of rastertime is used for embedded routines such as transition effects, scroller, and a multiplexor, so it won't be possible for me... or if it IS possible, then it'll be tricky. Plus I am using a IRQ disk loader at the same time, so really all rastertime is used.
One alternative I could do is write a bonus part including a compilation of his original c64 tunes, so that I can modify the CIA clock timer without the worry of visual effects.
EDIT:
Just to let you know that I haven't coded anything big on the c64 for about 7 years, and I'm not a PRO either, so don't hesisitate to correct me with anything that's wrong. :-) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Hi again.
I know for a fact that some people are starting to ask things like when this production will be finished... but please accept that I'm very busy with other things non-c64 related (for example, studies and exam revising!) - this is eating up a lot of my time unfortunately, and there is still more to consume in the coming weeks.
Say whatever you like if you're against this statement, but this is the situation I do have. Don't think that I'm a lazy cunt who can't be arsed to get this over delayed production done - my motivation on c64 is sluggish at the moment, because career comes first!!
/owen |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Take your time, there is no major rush, but the demo is a nice thing you're doing for the unforgettable composer :) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yep. Indeed. Real life should always come first.
It is frustrating as we all enjoy C64, but we have to keep our priorities in order.
Regarding this collection, I also ask all those participating to be patient while it is completed. We are quite close but don't wanna rush things for the sake of _rushing_. :)
In the meantime, keep sending in your donations. ;)) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
OWEN!! |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476 |
what's the current status on that project? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
All tunes in place (just received the last one from Sidder 3 weeks ago). Intro still to be done (Scout) and collection just needs to be polished up a bit (Conrad).
Would be nice if we could get it out at X2008 but everyone is busy. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
nice. keep it going :) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Quote:Would be nice if we could get it out at X2008 but everyone is busy.
I really really hoped that would happen, but I honestly don't know anymore. It won't be cancelled though, put it that way. Sorry that you lot are having to wait so long, especially the contributers.
P.S.
If there is any musicians still interested in making a remix of one of R.Joseph's gems, don't hesitate to email either me, Jazzcat or Yogibear/ptv. Sacred Armour and Barbarian are ones not been touched yet.
l8r |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
R.I.P. Mr Joseph. He was one of my favs.
The last entry is quite old in this thread... Was the tribute project finished? |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Nope |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: R.I.P. Mr Joseph. He was one of my favs.
The last entry is quite old in this thread... Was the tribute project finished?
We're still working on it (*looks at Conrad*).
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: We're still working on it (*looks at Conrad*).
...what about tossing the material to an another coder who has more time and can finish that...? |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
its not like good coders grow on trees you know :-) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
I will message Conrad and ask him if it should be passed on. He gave me the sources and everything (I helped organised a lot of the music in the collection).
My last discussion with him was that the thing is done pretty much but he wasn't happy with some things that needed changing.
The intro is also done. So, will chat with him first and then pass on if that's the choice.
Cheers for your patience guys.
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223 |
Will the tribute demo ever be released. In March he is 3 years dead!
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
whining never gets stuff ready faster, unless you're gonna also pay them. =) |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223 |
I wrote 2 sid tunes for this in 2007 and want them see released. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
No sweat. We're working on it. Basically it's finished. just waiting on 1 or 2 more tunes frome some late participants. |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223 |
Ah great to hear this! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Just awaiting GT, Intensity and Zerozillion to finish their tunes. Then we can launch it finally, better late than never. :D
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GT
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Registered: Sep 2008
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Quote: No sweat. We're working on it. Basically it's finished. just waiting on 1 or 2 more tunes frome some late participants.
Delievered tune 16th. January. How is it going ? |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 945 |
:) Still time for an update of my tune? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Geir: awaiting Stainless Steel to add remaining tunes and remove some text. Sorry for the delay :(
Hein: yep sure is, please submit asap, I dunno how quick Joe will be putting it together.
Would be nice to get it out at Breakpoint or before.
Greets! |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Ah, would be great to see it released finally! =) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Due to my being swamped with work and temporarily being single while my wife is visiting her parents for the next 6 weeks, i'm afraid i wont be able to find the time to finish the demo before breakpoint.
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Aw.
That sounds like early May, right? |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Okay, not early May.
Any news, BTW? :) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Stainless Steel has been on holiday in Thailand (so a further delay) - he messaged me he would get onto it when he gets back which is hopefully soon. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Thanks for the info! |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Just emailed Jazzcat about the state of the demo.
A shitload of problems have been piling up during my Thailand vacation which have to be dealt with before i can spend any time on "fun stuff".
Due to that i will not be able to complete the demo. As soon as i get a free minute, i will zip up what i have finished so far and mail it to Jazzcat so he can find someone who can finalize the demo.
It's actually 99% finished, all that's missing are some last minute tunes and a little glitch regarding the loader.
Sorry for the inconvenience. |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2581 |
Good on you for at least taking the time to hand over the project.
And best of luck with solving all your troubles! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Exactly. Hope those issues work out! Will see you at X hopefully and we can have a beer. :D
Anyone familiar with ACME compiler that could finish this up? As Joe mentioned, it's pretty much complete except for a few minor things. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
(News Update)
Stainless has passed this project onto me again. Code+gfx is going to be renovated to something worth viewing. Ignore all my bullshit posts from the past three years! :)
Fingers crossed, this will be released at X'2010. Don't expect a wow factor though.
and thank-you to the latest msx contributors. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Good news :) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
The Richard Joseph Tribute |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
\o/ (guess I skip work today) =) |
