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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Release id #102361 : arise #$10
A beginner's guide on getting your hands on "arise #$10" :)
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This double DVD is format-wise quite an unique release, therefore it requires a quite unique spreading model.
It is deep in our minds that scene productions should be free, yet you have to be aware that costs of producing 2 professionally-printed DVDs with box and covers is a bit different from a 5,25" floppy. After long discussions within the group, we decided as follows:
1). "arise #$10" will not be a product for sale.
2). As we have decided to give it to the scene for free, taking into consideration our limited resources we have produced 50 boxed sets of this release. Those will be delivered as a gift by snail-mail to 50 people from the demoscene, both in Poland and abroad. Unfortunatelly, that 50 is far from the number of people we admire and respect in the scene, but we had to make this hard choice and we are really hoping that everyone not included in that 50 will not feel offended in any way!!!
3). For the rest, if you'd like to get your hands on this release, you have 3 ways of doing that:
a). option for the real swappers: the DVDs are not copyright protected in any way, so we don't mind AT ALL if you copy it from your fellow scener, any DVD-copying software should be able to do it with no problem (and it will bring back a nice memory of old glory, disk-copying days - right?? :D).
b). option for the real party animals: on every upcoming scene event with Arise members present, we will bring some copies for you. The closest occassion will be probably next Stary Piernik meeting, and we will definately be present at next X!
c). option for the real impatient ones: if you really, really, and I mean REALLY can't wait, just drop me (wackee) an email or personal message through csdb or any other board. We'll think of something, but you'll have to consider that shipping costs will be most probably on your side.
signed: the arise#$10 commitee ;)
wackee/bimber/elban of arise |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
WOW what a surprise! received it today! \o/ \o/ \o/
Thanks a lot for the exceptional gift |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
Yeah, Fucking A this one! |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Amazing release and production. I had a hard day when I received it so I just wanted to take a peek when the day ended. Man I had to watch everything, I did not care that it was 2am.
Thanks for the good experience! You guys rule.
\m/, |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Got my copy today, much appreciated. Thanks! |
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Graham
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Cool one. |
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Kisiel
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 56 |
anyone who is not rabbit friends use google translate:
"Nie życzę sobie żeby to siedziało na torrentach. I chuj."
as said wackee.
So the concept of this release is to give the stuff only for "right one" members of the CSDB community.
I think this release breaks CSDB rules, EoD is for slum dogs, arise product is for the chosen ones.
For me is new history of releases on CSDB. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Can the moderator that is behind deleting this entry explain to me the reasoning behind it?
The rule 7.3 states:
"if you for some reason are unable to upload a file, or provide a download link, you must add a reason why. Releases with no download link and no good reason why there isn't such a link might be removed."
The reason is: csdb cannot hold 2 x 4GB ISO files. |
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TPM
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 110 |
curious about DVD's content.. what's on it? :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
"The reason is: csdb cannot hold 2 x 4GB ISO files."
you could easily upload it to scene.org .... or ask a moderator to upload it to csdb. this never was wanted though (and noone ever asked, quite the contrary is true, ppl asked for it and got told it will not happen)
i know its hard to understand for some, but video and audio DVDs/CDs/MPEGs/etcblablawhateverdoesntrunonc64atall doesnt belong here. and even more so if they are not available for the general public like this one. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
a) I thought things connected with demoscene belong here. Hardware with no download link is ok, paper art is ok, other platform tools are ok, somehow this DVD with c64 demos is not ok.
b) If giving it to every scener that gives a (slightest) shit (enough to write a damn email/fb/whatever) is not making it available for general public, then I don't know what is.
Both are excuses to play favourites. We already know you don't like us, don't have to prove it ALL the time.
But, I guess, why bother. Deleting this entry makes the database incomplete, the release lives on :)
@TPM: see for yourself, grab your copy @ X'2012!! :) |
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sebalozlepsi
Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 23 |
DRAMA..
Wacek, get over it. |
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null
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Quoting Groepazvideo and audio DVDs/CDs/MPEGs/etcblablawhateverdoesntrunonc64atall doesnt belong here.
So what about all the paper art? Disc covers? Papermags? That commodore logo that was cut into someone's lawn?
Last time I checked those don't run on a c64 either.
Just curious why they are more worth keeping than this. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
"I thought things connected with demoscene belong here."
no, not at all.
"Hardware with no download link is ok"
no, it is not. respective entries have been, and will be, removed if noticed.
"somehow this DVD with c64 demos is not ok."
such productions fall into the same category as eg remixes of SID tunes - we dont add these for similar reasons.
"We already know you don't like us, don't have to prove it ALL the time."
actually arise belongs to my top10 favourite demo groups. <3 but you are correct - i dont like such kind of DVD productions, which however wouldnt be a good reason to not allow them, i am not the only one making those silly rules you know. but somehow those who run the site agreed on them - and you are free to like or dislike them, ofcourse.
and disc covers have been part of the c64 scene for a very long time, hence we have a category for it, and yes they are a bordercase already. (and that c= logo has been removed long ago as far as i remember.)
and what sebaloz said, stop the damn drama, use your energy and make a demo instead (and i mean it, please do). |
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null
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
By the way, if there is really a bad need to mirror the DVDs, I may be able to spare some bandwidth.
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http://zowb.net |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
You should host it at scene.org |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
I "almost" believe the explanation.
Somehow K2DEMO.DVD has been here for seven fucking years, and nobody had a need to delete it.
Other interesting stuff kept intact:
Live: Vision 2003 I say "video != c64 scene release"
X-2000 Party Video I say "video != c64 scene release"
Venlo Meeting Video Footage I say "video != c64 scene release"
Haringfeest (Hype Hype) - The Party 4 Video Edit I say "video != c64 scene release"
Floppy 2004 LIVE Video I say "video != c64 scene release"
READY. T-shirt a fucking tshirt
Breakpoint 06 c64 Graphics Seminar is as scene related as this dvd imho
Don't get me wrong, I don't want you to delete those, I would like to see you EXPAND YOUR HORIZON a bit and keep in the database the things that are worth keeping for history's sake.
@Knoeki: thanks, I appreciate the offer, but if the entry will be removed anyway, then what's the fucking point? I'm just running out of energy to fight this obvious bad karma. It's just too fuckin' much, even for me, in the last days. So many words about 'love' in the scene, so little action behind it. |
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sebalozlepsi
Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 23 |
how about new feature for csdb - link checker?
you can use to test all yours entries, ensuring that you dont have any deleted links?
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
Quoting wackee
Other interesting stuff kept intact:
Live: Vision 2003 I say "video != c64 scene release"
X-2000 Party Video I say "video != c64 scene release"
Venlo Meeting Video Footage I say "video != c64 scene release"
Haringfeest (Hype Hype) - The Party 4 Video Edit I say "video != c64 scene release"
Floppy 2004 LIVE Video I say "video != c64 scene release"
READY. T-shirt a fucking tshirt
Breakpoint 06 c64 Graphics Seminar is as scene related as this dvd imho
Don't get me wrong, I don't want you to delete those.
Why not?
Also, what a fucking idiotic thing again. First there was about hardware now scene DVDs?
Fucking stupid.
How do you remove account on this 'website'? |
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Oxbow
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
Dear CSDb admins,
If you think of a demo as an expression of art, with 'Art' and 'Rules' being adversaries by definition.
Then please take a moment and interpret the rules in this matter from a different perspective and allow arise #$10 to be recorded in this beautiful database, which i deeply admire and consider to be the cornerstone of the modern day C64 scene for which we all share so much love.
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
K2D, V2003 and T-shirt are all dead by now. Will you mods burn witches in the name of good, too?
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Interestingly enough, the party videos are still here.
I'm waiting till someone deletes the X-2000 video, maybe then we will all realize this is fucking retarded, and something is fucking wrong. |
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TPM
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 110 |
just fix a download link to the release, c'est ça :) |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Someone would have to undelete it first. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
Quote:K2D, V2003 and T-shirt are all dead by now. Will you mods burn witches in the name of good, too?
guess what - two of those were deleted by a user (and rightly so). and yes, we will continue supporting that if it goes in line with the site rules. if only some people would put the same energy into working on the db as they do in whining in the forum.
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Quoting Groepazif only some people would put the same energy into working on the db
Are you sure you want to use that argument?
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I'll stop my "complaining" here, as continuing on this discussion may result in a ban of my person (read the rules). Instead, I have written a formal request to consider changes to the moderators. If that's a preffered way to solve such disputes, let it be.
I do not have any personal gain in these discussions. I sincerely think what I argue about is for the benefit of the site and the community. Anyone has a right to a different opinion. |
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Kisiel
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 56 |
Quoting Groepaz"The reason is: csdb cannot hold 2 x 4GB ISO files."
you could easily upload it to scene.org .... or ask a moderator to upload it to csdb. this never was wanted though (and noone ever asked, quite the contrary is true, ppl asked for it and got told it will not happen)
Yes, I agree with you because I mansion it before. I have only one question for a dummies, why you waiting for this so long (eight months)? I posted my idea on February and you wake up now, is it strange for you?
Sorry I don't buy it now, you are moderator as my dog is pretty. Shame on you little man, you have some personal problems that's for sure. You treat us like dummy ass that is not ok.
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
http://www.puscii.nl/c64/
I've uploaded both dvds isos now, enjoy |
