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2019-04-19 15:13
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Release id #176969 : Super Mario Bros 64 +2

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 19 April 2019
G*P perspective. This is turning into a discussion. Will copy the discussion to the forum.. From my moderator perspective.

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Submitted by Mr Ammo [PM] on 19 April 2019
"from our perspective". Is that your CSDb moderator / CSDb rules perspective or is it your G*P perspective. I feel there is a conflict of interest when you answer this question.

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 19 April 2019
From our perspective they are part of the same release. They were released together as it was meant. And they are both working.

There are many examples on releases that have different sorts of files in the same release: d64 and d81 versions of diskmags, cracks etc. Even mixed easyflash and disk versions of the same release in the same entry as they were released together.

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Submitted by Mr Ammo [PM] on 19 April 2019
Since the 191 blox version is a different version of this release, shouldn't there be a different release entry for this version as per CSDb rules and what the mods preach?

That way there will be a release entry for a working version and a non-working version for vanilla C64s.User
2019-04-19 15:20
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
From our (G*P:s) perspective the both files belong to the same release, thus the same entry in CSDb, as said above. They were released together on the same d64 at the same time, and serve the purpose of handing the release out to those with and without a turbo cartridge.

Examples of releases with different file types, standards and stuff that in my opinion should be kept together as they belong to the same release: Attitude #19, Vandalism News #65, Black Gold +9DFIR, Ultima IV Remastered V2.2.1...
2019-04-19 15:55
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
The 202 blocks limit (loading up to $cfff) should be never forgotten, especially by self called elite groups. By simply replacing the tune with a <1kb one (take jeff/xlarge.sid for example) you could have made it in 201 blocks, just saying. And when it's not possible, fill the $1000-1fxx area with $60 and make it silent.
Making a release that REQUIRES a special/external loader is lame in my book.
The extra introless version could have been even avoided.
And you released a sloppy work just for rushing it out, and not spending 5 minutes to make it proper. But it's your reputation being lowered, not mine :P
2019-04-19 17:29
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Of course we were in a hurry, and in the middle of the night L.A.Style delivered this as most guys use carts anyway, and also added a non intro version for the others... Because we care... But then, ian: This is for you: Super Mario Bros 64 +2.
2019-04-19 20:07
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
it's not about me, it's about making things right and self preservation of YOUR group respectability.
2019-04-19 20:30
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Quote: it's not about me, it's about making things right and self preservation of YOUR group respectability.

Jesus died ffs. Still we want to spread love you way. It's eastern. ;)
2019-04-19 22:42
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 110
shouldn't crappy releases be under dinasours label?
2019-04-20 01:03
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
LOL
2019-04-20 08:54
Acidchild

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 465
i just hope that all these needed re-relaeses, which were needed to make because of not proper testing, will be punished
with minus-points in all these release-lists, so we can either see which group needs the most versions until they have a 100% working crack or which group might take a little more time for their releases, but than atleast have the quality on their side.
2019-04-20 09:14
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Shit happens, as both Jazzcat, Goat and all you others know and have experienced, and will experience. Enjoy the chance to have some fun on our expense. Next time it might be you. :) Enjoy the weekend!

Acidchild: Of course. Read the rules. We are not different from others. It's great to see all wishing us well. ;) <3
2019-04-20 09:29
Acidchild

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 465
hedning: it's not about you, but in the last time i have the feeling that more and more of such mistakes happen, which could have been avoided. i just hope you guys (all active cracking groups) will forget about the release-rush but start instead to think on quality instead!
 
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