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2020-01-03 13:35
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 936
Release id #185343 : VICE 3.4

Since 3.4 Mr Wegi's loader stopped working - it seems to init drive and go idle. Any solution to that? Tweaking settings gives no results.
2020-01-03 15:23
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2869
Have they fixed the farting 8580 yet? I still have to run 2.4 to get a smooth and nice experience.
2020-01-03 15:49
Dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 197
As i am building my own vice and following the svn updates i can't remember seeing anything that has to do with SID and fixes to the playback.

My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows. Neither on my private or my work laptop i get a proper 50FPS playback. And that doesn't add to improve sound playback even more.

As for SIDs i think i still resort to SidPlay2.6w as i think it sounds pretty good (Sidplay/w 2.6).
But i am no musician after all..

As for the Drive/Loader issues.. I didn't have any drive issues with the latest 3.3 builds running the somewhat latest Demos from time to time. Still i wouldn't know what to tweak or alter for a different drive behaviour.
2020-01-03 16:00
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2869
Quote: As i am building my own vice and following the svn updates i can't remember seeing anything that has to do with SID and fixes to the playback.

My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows. Neither on my private or my work laptop i get a proper 50FPS playback. And that doesn't add to improve sound playback even more.

As for SIDs i think i still resort to SidPlay2.6w as i think it sounds pretty good (Sidplay/w 2.6).
But i am no musician after all..

As for the Drive/Loader issues.. I didn't have any drive issues with the latest 3.3 builds running the somewhat latest Demos from time to time. Still i wouldn't know what to tweak or alter for a different drive behaviour.


It has mostly been an issue with 8580 emulation when running sid's with thick base, like Linus' tunes or Jammer's. Then the base "farts", since Vice 3.1. When poking the devs about it, they want more detailed technotalk specifications, which I cannot provide.
2020-01-03 16:10
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 140
Quoting dano

My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows.

I haven't compiled the latest versions of VICE/resid, but I know from experience that tweaking the floating point settings for resid-fp has a tremendous impact on performance (5x speedup and more). The default settings with the Microsoft compiler will create slow code. If you have VS2019 you can even use llvm/clang.
2020-01-03 16:22
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 936
@hedning: sound works cool in 3.4 :)
2020-01-03 16:36
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 552
Quoting Stone
Quoting dano

My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows.

I haven't compiled the latest versions of VICE/resid, but I know from experience that tweaking the floating point settings for resid-fp has a tremendous impact on performance (5x speedup and more). The default settings with the Microsoft compiler will create slow code. If you have VS2019 you can even use llvm/clang.


VICE's build system hasn't supported MSVC for quite a while now. If you want to build VICE on Windows from source you'll need msys2, unless Visual Studio supports autotools projects.
2020-01-03 17:04
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 936
Quoting Jammer
Since 3.4 Mr Wegi's loader stopped working - it seems to init drive and go idle. Any solution to that? Tweaking settings gives no results.


Groepaz pointed me to the cause - virtual devices (emulator settings) must be disabled. Case closed.

Thanks!
2020-01-03 17:16
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 552
Well, that was easy =)
2020-01-03 18:14
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2869
Quote: @hedning: sound works cool in 3.4 :)

Great!
2020-01-03 18:16
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2869
Quote: Quoting Stone
Quoting dano

My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows.

I haven't compiled the latest versions of VICE/resid, but I know from experience that tweaking the floating point settings for resid-fp has a tremendous impact on performance (5x speedup and more). The default settings with the Microsoft compiler will create slow code. If you have VS2019 you can even use llvm/clang.


VICE's build system hasn't supported MSVC for quite a while now. If you want to build VICE on Windows from source you'll need msys2, unless Visual Studio supports autotools projects.


How can we get them to do that again then? The bulkyness of today's versions is unbearable. 95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users.
 
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