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2021-07-04 16:56
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Release id #205500 : Freespin

Allow me to comment on some tech details here, as i don't have an FB account to comment on the blog.

Great idea about the table-less 3:2 GCR-compliant codec to have maximum spare space for actual payload effect code. =)

(But table sizes of traditional decoding schemes aren't all that big, really.)
2021-07-04 20:10
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 110
Does the music playback in this demo make the drive to misalign? I've heard the stepping the head a lot into the mechanical stop causes that.
2021-07-05 06:52
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
I wonder if this can be emulated on the Ultimate some day? Especially the drive music. :-)
2021-07-05 13:03
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 556
Totally love this. Thinking about Trap's comment, though, and moving my thoughts to the Forums before the admins trash the review thread of the demo (as is common)...

Should this be classed as a C64 Demo or something else? I'm not 100% sure. Most big demos nowadays have 1541 code for IRQ loaders etc ... but, of course, having to cut the serial cable and rewire it (or to one day perhaps have some sort of splitter cable) kinda makes this a hardware "extension"... that cable is hardly certified by Commodore after all ;-)

Moving it out of the charts doesn't feel fair, either, as the amount of work done on this and the thought that's gone into it is incredible.

Trap for sure has other reasons for wanting it knocked off the #1 spot of course ;-) .. but .. yeah. Not sure.
2021-07-05 17:28
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Nice question. It surely requires a C64 and a C1541 compatible drive but then also requires some special hw (a modified cable but still is special custom hw) so it's a mixed C64+other platform release
That also poses another question: releases that run only on SpeedDos/JiffyDos etc are to be questioned if they're C64 releases? =)
/me throws some more fuel in the fire and goes away
2021-07-05 18:00
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 556
Maybe CSDb needs tags..?
2021-07-05 20:01
Higgie

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 113
Frankly, I don't think that the demo belongs in the c64 demo category. The demo runs on the 1541. The c64 is only used to upload the code. As far as I remember, you can also connect the 1541 to a VC20, C16 C128 or even to an E-Mu Systems SP-12 drum machine and transfer the drive code from there to the 1541 if necessary. OK. I'm not sure about the SP-12. ;) Maybe CSDB needs a category "Wild with Commodore Hardware involved". Just my 2 cents. ... BTW: I love the demo for what it is ... running on a 1541. :)
2021-07-05 20:21
BiGFooT

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 31
Quote: I wonder if this can be emulated on the Ultimate some day? Especially the drive music. :-)

I wonder if this can be "emulated" on my breadbin some day? ;-)
2021-07-05 22:24
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
i put it on my todo list :)
2021-07-05 23:13
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: I wonder if this can be "emulated" on my breadbin some day? ;-)

emulated? just put the damn thing on a cart, cut the serial cable on from the c64 and be done with it. :d
2021-07-06 05:55
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
the 1541 is on different clockspeed tho? I was wondering what is needed to provide sync signals to the monitor? so the 3rd 'color' does that I guess? ~63 cycles per lines, then how many cycles sync? and how long for vblank?
 
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