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2021-09-07 03:05
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Release id #208025 : Re-Miseria

Does anyone know if this type of petscii "extendended background color mode" is admited in Petscii compos??
I like know if my future entries can be admitted or not usually in the demopartys? Tankss
2021-09-07 06:33

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That is up to every party to decide, I’d say.
2021-09-07 07:13

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In plain(!) compo it would end in the WiLD department, because ECM and more than one value for $D021 (no matter if it's via rastersplits in one or interlaced in more than one frame) are explicitly ruled out.
If it's for a party: Why not just send and let compo orga decide? Worst case: it ends in some "Mixed Graphics" or out of compo.
2021-09-07 08:00

Registered: Dec 2001
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For me the sticking point is using the unmodified ROM font. This entry uses a custom font, which imho would disqualify it. ECM is borderline, but if you can make an interesting picture with the default 64 characters (compo idea?), hats off to you.
2021-09-07 08:14
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Thank you all for the answers.
2021-09-08 05:12
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The issue is more serious than I imagined. They just deleted my Petscii on World of Petscii in Facebook. Does anyone know why this causes so much hives? The removal reason was "no custom characters" which is not true.
2021-09-08 07:37

Registered: May 2004
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You are both kind of correct; the chars are not custom but they are not where they should be in regards to the ROM font.

When using ECM you can only use the first 64 chars and in the original ROM font, that is

@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[£](up arrow)(left arrow) !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?

So all the graphic chars are not readily available unless you copy them to unoriginal positions in a custom font, thereby making them kind of custom...

Anyway, I like the picture and will use it as an ECM sample in the upcoming Picture Converter :)
2021-09-08 11:22

Registered: Dec 2001
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It all depends on how strict you want to be, and where you draw the line. It's undoubtedly a character mode picture. Technically it's a custom font, even though it uses characters copied from the ROM font. I don't think it qualifies as PETSCII, as that implies a certain character set, rather than a specific font.

Boundary pushing is what it's all about though, so keep going.

And how come we don't have any multicolor PETSCII?
2021-09-08 11:42

Registered: Dec 2001
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generally it qualifies as petscii if you can put the data into a .seq file and display the picture in a random terminal program. ie if you could use the picture on a bbs system.

that basically means standard characters, single color mode, black background. these days changing the background color seems to be accepted - but thats already stretching it IMHO.
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