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2018-02-24 12:38
Shine

Registered: Jul 2012
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Comparison of C64 Music Editors by JCH

http://chordian.net/c64editors.htm
 
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2018-03-08 21:12
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 185
Quote: Yes, NTSC needs a different frequency table.
But it doesn't matter all that much, a lot of tunes use the wrong frequency table, either because the tables in the C64 manual were wrong (US manual was translated to various languages and the table was not adjusted) or because they took them from the wrong source, e.g. the SID datasheet, which was based on an exact 1MHz clock.

Detuned SID music is very common and purely exists to annoy Reyn and other people with perfect pitch hearing. :)


LOL!

OK, thanks for clearing that up.
2018-03-08 21:38
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 2757
DMC5.0 subtunes. Try with (shift m) if I remember right. There should be tunes 1 to 0 (on numeric keyyboard). That should be 10 subtunes.
2018-03-09 09:08
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 185
That's spooky. Thanks, I'll add it.
2018-03-11 18:24
GH

Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 74
Nice to see everything is so well categorized. Splendid job and much appreciated :D

Will there be a comparison of the different Filter tables and possibilities each editor as well?
While I know JCH, Virtuose and Goat by now, DMC still confuses me or Let's just say it's
abracadabra :D And it seems i'm not the only one...

What about 1 example made in JCH that is shown for every other editor with the (almost) the same outcome ?
2018-03-11 21:01
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 185
Thanks, well, the table already goes into meticulous detail and going into even more detail would move it into documentation country. I have to draw the line somewhere.
2018-03-11 22:33
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 2757
Sorry for wrong info. Just got my hands on DMC today. It's 0-7 (8 subtunes)
2018-03-12 06:54
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 185
Updated.
2018-03-12 23:14
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 229
SDI detects pal/ntsc system and changes the multispeed raster tables according to that. To use pal or ntsc note table frequencies is an optional selection on startup.
2018-03-13 09:09
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 185
Quote: SDI detects pal/ntsc system and changes the multispeed raster tables according to that. To use pal or ntsc note table frequencies is an optional selection on startup.

Nice. The field already stated PAL + NTSC, but I've now added that it autodetects the latter.

EDIT: Sod it, changed it to read "frequency table" instead of "autodetects".
2018-03-15 20:41
GH

Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 74
Oh yeah it's diligent alright but sometimes it just might be easier to have an (raw) example to compare, at least that's me...

Hoping for another "No More Secrets" by Groepaz :D
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