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2025-01-08 14:48
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
Play external samples with SID tune

There are devices for the C64 able to play sampled music without the SID.
I found the FPGASID, Sidekick and the 1541 Ultimate II to do this.

Now my idea:
Play a SID tune and mute the Percussion instruments while activating the external samples coresponding to the muted sid voices just in time.

In short: SID is playing melody and effects and the external sampler plays HiFi percussion.

Has this been done before?

I think with percussion this should be easy. With bass and bass melody more effort would be needed to pitch the sampled bass sample for different notes. Like a Amiga Tracker would do.
2025-01-08 16:30
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 460
It is not a big hack to grab the playing note/instrument from some random SID play routine. Then it is just the matter of getting the message to that external device to play the samples - and mix SID voices with them. I have no idea how the listed hardware actually works.

More general solution might just be to get a MIDI-interface. MIDI has been around for a while.

You should absolutely do this.
2025-01-08 17:56
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
Midi is far to much overhead and equipment to deal with at the moment. Maybe later I go for this way.

With just the C64 with two Sids, a 1541 Ultimate II and a audio mixer I have a compact setup. And it is - at least from the outside - retro.

The 1541 Ultimate can do:

- 7 independent channels
- 8 or 16 bit audio sample playback
- sample rate up to 48 kHz
- volume control per channel
- panning control per channel
- “a-b” looping
- interrupt generation

The documentation of Gideon Zweitzer:
https://1541u-documentation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quick_guid..
2025-01-08 23:58
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
The signal of the sample player can be routed to SIDs audio in for filtering and mixing.

I am curious how this sounds.

With this my setup does not need an external audio mixer. Let´s see if this is practical.
2025-01-09 00:00
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
Some people experimented with the audio in:

https://www.forum64.de/index.php?thread/55224-audio-in-am-c64-c..
2025-03-06 15:43
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
Now I have a working playroutine with 16 Bit/44,1kHz samples triggered by the runing SID tune.

It sounds amazing.

Demo is going to be released at Revision 2025. I wonder in which category !?
2025-03-20 16:52
Rub_0201

Registered: Apr 2019
Posts: 28
I am excited to present...

Suppenlöffel

.. my first music release with the setup:

https://projectechtzeit.bandcamp.com/track/suppenl-ffel

Recorded directly from C64 and 1541 Ultimate. No postproduction. Just an analog delay .
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