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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206 |
Any rule for adding screenshoots for cracks releases?
I've noticed, that someone adds screenshots for latest added releases. Nothing odd, but I've realised, that lots of those screenshoots are wrong - they are taken directly from the game, not from the cracktro(s). Imho the screenshoots should show the differences between other cracks and adding screenshoot directly from game will not show the difference for someone, who wants to find a proper crack instead of downloading all files from csdb.
Here are some examples:
The Untouchables 2-4
Altered Beast [tape]
Music Shop
CoverGirl Strip Poker
And maybe others... Someone can take care about it and check who added these screenshoots and tell him that it would be more better to add screenshoots from cracktros, instead from games? Looking forward for any feedback for this proposal :) |
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
You should be adding the screenshots.
You and I are of one mind-- What makes the CSDb special are the groups that release the games and not the games themselves. However, some folks would argue that the games are important, not the cracktros.
So... don't depend on someone else to create the screenshots. Do it yourself. It's fairly simple, and if you have scads of games to dump to the Db it'd only take you a few more moments to do each screenshot upload.
I love what you are uploading here. Keep it up!
-Ninj |
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
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grab 1 screenshot from the intro,one from the trainer menu,one from the game title screen and one from the game it self,go to http://www.picasion.com ,browse for all the screen dumps in the correct order,fill in the corresponding image width(384 for Vice with the "normal borders"),select the speed:- "slower(3 sec)" and create the animated gif image. everyone pleased. |
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Ksubi
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Registered: Nov 2007
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Alternatively, if you have Adobe Image ready: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z93Z1v5dypE |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
there is no strict rule for this... however, i agree that the crack intro should be in there :)
do you think such a rule should be added? |
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Acidchild
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 470 |
yes, please add a rule, as until now i have always uploaded a game-in-screenshot only, but if there is a rule then i will do different ofcourse. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
I think Perff should implement an animated-gif-maker so you could upload say 5-6 different screenshots & an animated gif will be created automagically. :) |
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The MeatBall
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 367 |
For cracks I'd say the crackintro and trainermenu should be includded, aswell as the title-screen. If only uploading 1 pic, it should be the cracktro (imho).
Loads of cracks with just a in-game shot doesn't show the difference between them (sorry Acidchild). |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2914 |
If we're getting picky about this, make sure to include a requirement to show _all_ intros ... not just the PAL intro or NTSC ... both.
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206 |
Quote: For cracks I'd say the crackintro and trainermenu should be includded, aswell as the title-screen. If only uploading 1 pic, it should be the cracktro (imho).
Loads of cracks with just a in-game shot doesn't show the difference between them (sorry Acidchild).
Yes I agree - that was exactly what I was meaning. Thanx for feedback! |
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grennouille
Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 222 |
Assidious you're right. I will use this way for my next "animated" screenshots |
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grennouille
Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 222 |
I Just did it for The Untouchables 2-4
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The Overkiller
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342 |
If we are talking about to add crack intro AND game-in image ok. But personally I always prefered the game-in pic instead the crack intro only.. Here's an example.. Let's say I'm searching all the releases of Nemesis by Ariolasoft. With this entry I'm sure it's what I need: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=56504. With this entry instead I get Nemesis by Konami which I'm not interested: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=72517. All what I need is to be sure about the game and that groups/crackers and enhanchments (+++, dox, pic etc..) are written. This is of course my personal need, many others probably have different ones. |
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GT
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Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 308 |
Please add SID files aswell. Crack intros, and for the game itself (most important). :-P |
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
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you shouldnt link ANY sid files to a crack- neither for the crack intro nor for the game. crack intro sid files should be linked to a separate crack intro entry associated with the crack. otherwise sid file links(and crack intro credits) would have to be duplicated over tens and hundreds of cracks using the same cracktro. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
indeed. *only* the credits that refer to the actual crack belong into the entry of the crack. no more no less. |
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GT
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Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 308 |
And music driver credits aswell. That would be neat. :-P |
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206 |
Quote: you shouldnt link ANY sid files to a crack- neither for the crack intro nor for the game. crack intro sid files should be linked to a separate crack intro entry associated with the crack. otherwise sid file links(and crack intro credits) would have to be duplicated over tens and hundreds of cracks using the same cracktro.
Personally I dislike this idea. I prefer to have everything listed as it appears on release (like we are doing on discogs.com). Credits, sid files etc., just everything. Even, if the same credits goes for 50 cracks using the same cracktro. It's fine - we can see which sid for example was most used in cracktros etc :D
I also dislike idea of adding ripped cracktros as separate entrys but I'm not the creator of rules here :). |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2914 |
Which is a good thing apparently or the database would be so bloated you couldn't fit it inside Airwolf.
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GT
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Registered: Sep 2008
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Quote: Personally I dislike this idea. I prefer to have everything listed as it appears on release (like we are doing on discogs.com). Credits, sid files etc., just everything. Even, if the same credits goes for 50 cracks using the same cracktro. It's fine - we can see which sid for example was most used in cracktros etc :D
I also dislike idea of adding ripped cracktros as separate entrys but I'm not the creator of rules here :).
Finally someone with brain. ;-) |
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 597 |
Quote: Which is a good thing apparently or the database would be so bloated you couldn't fit it inside Airwolf.
lol
on: UnFREEz is a small & handy little tool to make animated gifs.
I always add screenshots from the crackintro, sometimes the trainer menu and couple of ingame screenshots.
I just think it looks neater that way heh. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
Quote:Personally I dislike this idea. I prefer to have everything listed as it appears on release (like we are doing on discogs.com). Credits, sid files etc., just everything. Even, if the same credits goes for 50 cracks using the same cracktro. It's fine - we can see which sid for example was most used in cracktros etc :D
putting everything into one entry, credits for the intro, the crack and the game, would result in a giant mess. how would you tell what credit belongs to what?
wether everything is *displayed* on one page is a completely different matter - and has nothing to do with the structure of the database. that could (and should) be fixed in the presentation layer, and only there.
(and infact, no. if you did it like you suggest you couldnt find out what tune was used most in cracktros at all. the only thing you could get out of the mess would be "the most used tune used in cracktros/demos/games/everything") |
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206 |
Some days ago I came with new idea for CSDB structure.
Something like tagged credits (blocks?). Lemme show you example:
Intro:
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code: blabla
msx: blabla
fonts: blabla
graphics: blabla
Trainer:
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trained by: sfdsfdsf
bugfixed by: dfgfdgfdg
ori supply: sdfdgdfgh
Game:
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other credits
I doubt, if we should then add credits for game if this is a crack release for example - we can discuss that.
Same could go for demos:
Intro:
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credits....
Part 1 (name of this part if it has, date of made because more mega demos were done in several days):
credits....
part 2
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credits...
This idea would be really fantastic imho. Everyoune could see, who made what in every release. not only
code... sfsdfds
music... gfdgfdg
where we don;t know if that person coded 1 byte or whole release :)
What ya think about these solution? For me it would be nice feature :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
linking the intro to cracks already does something similar :) and yes it would be nice to make it even more detailed .... then again perff already has a long list of things that need to be done (we probably should make a public version of that, so we dont have to discuss this stuff again and again every few months =P) |
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AlexC
Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 298 |
Quote: linking the intro to cracks already does something similar :) and yes it would be nice to make it even more detailed .... then again perff already has a long list of things that need to be done (we probably should make a public version of that, so we dont have to discuss this stuff again and again every few months =P)
Please do! This will be valuable info. In fact it should be pinned somewhere on top of the page. |
