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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833 |
Merge votes between multiple linked handles
For quite some time I was urging to start a topic on merging votes between multiple handles linked to each other, to give a more realistic rank for an actual scener, regardless on how many handles it used.
Seeing all the credits moved from RRFreelance to Robert Ramsay, yet currently seeing RRFreelance being ranked #2 as Graphican in the charts, just makes it all look broke and misleading.
So, time to debate... what do you think about merging votes? |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1825 |
Nothing - delete them all. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136 |
I give you an example why this should not be done: A person could have one fake identity to make silly shit, and a serious identity used to make good stuff. I don't want to give 10 to both, I want to be able to vote 1 for the handle making shit and 10 for the excellent serious scener. Same goes for a lamer in his teen age that finally after years changed handle and started making good stuff.
And before you question, no, it's not just hypothetical, there are plenty. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
So much potential in this set-up. Musician celebrity showdown: Conrad vs CRD, Jeff vs Soren, MacMagix vs Reyn. And so on, and so on. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135 |
What Count said. What's stopping it? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4604 |
Quote: What Count said. What's stopping it?
Votes here are somehow really, really important for some users, with a obvious backside: Drama Galore and hurt feelings if someone votes lower than, like 8, sometimes 9.
In my opinion votes can be useful for top lists, but then again: people who don't think the top list reflect their own personal top lists are seriously downvoting top notch stuff to "get it right", which then provoke others to do the same, etc etc. That goes for scener votes too. People are downvoting others because of personal hate etc. It's like kindergarden.
The voting system only has one real function that works: CSDb online compos, and that is accidental. CSDb was not built to host these at all.
In my personal dream world I would get rid of the voting system. It creates too much drama, and the system is flawed. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2076 |
Quoting hedning...
The voting system only has one real function that works: CSDb online compos ...
Even that is debatable
Quoting hedning...
In my personal dream world I would get rid of the voting system. It creates too much drama, ... Like most mods I totally agree - once again like on any Groundhog Day
Would be great if torn dresses and exchange of well-known arguments are enough this time, it's always somewhat painful to see ppl freak out, ragequit and/or get banned because of that silly old topic, as the debate's so useless |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 572 |
Using the voting for online compos is weird too…
People will vote to make sure that their favourite entry wins a compo… but if all the entries in a compo are shit, you then end up with shit getting scores of “10” because one shitty entry is slightly less shit than all the other entries.
The regular voting is also borked.
Hell, what is a 10? For me, the old Crest demos, Light, Horizon, etc etc.. I’ll always prefer those to modern demos. Modern demos might be more polished … but we sit behind PCs with 1000s times more performance than we had in the 80s coding on Expert Cartridge etc…
So, yeah, the charts are all bullshit really.
But… if CSDb has no charts… it loses a lot too. Because the charts are an easy way to find awesome demos … like Memento Mori and Edge of Disgrace ;-) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 572 |
Also… it would be possibly unfair on Robert Ramsay to vote based on the RRFreelance releases… he didn’t ask for these to be released, he simply put them on the web, in PNG format (not a native C64 executable format and therefore not a “release”) as a demonstration of methods, of his toolsets, etc… he didn’t want the images released, but someone else released them now, so it seems unfair that those images could drag his rating down.
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
Charts have been part of the scene almost since the beginning. All of them have been biased and dramatic anyway, CSDb can be just as borked.
Btw, I tried upvoting Memento Mori, but it had no impact on the final result, *shrug*. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135 |
So it seems the majority of the mods agree. So what IS stopping it? Kindergarden indeed :) |
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