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2007-05-08 13:31
The Ignorance

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85
BYEBYE

After watching csdb and not logging in, for months I say
BYEBYE...
I deleted my profile and you could delete my account.
From today I won't give out anything anylonger.
I didn't delete my releases, if anybody will do, I don't care.

If you prefer CRYpt+WDR style and quality, now you can get it daily.
I am really fed up with allowing every shit on this database and if you call it SHIT or CRAP or lower standard than 1985
you hear only "better shit and active than being inactive".
Recracks, SEUCKs, BASIC and frozen "cracks" are allowed here.
WOW! What impressive style.

To say it clear: I dislike it if anybody adds something from me here in the future.
The most of you forum- or demosceners have no fucking clue
how the real scene worked and still the cracks were there before the demos, which many forget so easily.
Respect for the people who did anything in the past (and
I don't speak about me here) is nowhere (good example:
OSWALD, but with him I could live as he could code decent)
but only lamers pretending to be cool all day.
As already said, others say if you are elite or a legend
or not. Getting attacked caring about my part of the scene
(e.g. cracking) or holding up old values and style is boring
me to death. Even a demoscener or a guy who can't code could see what is lame crap or not.
But nobody cares, so do I.
Yeah, those ignoring and "don't feed the troll" helped really a lot. I know some people who are dead because they
did the same or they had to struggle hard to kill the people
who they should have done sth against at first place.

ByeBye...

Have fun playing those killerreleases of CRYpt, CIVITAS
and KRYNN LTD., the elite of 2007.

Gone...
2007-05-08 13:43
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
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2007-05-08 13:50
BAR.
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
Please come back.

Think about the facts.

Take a look at the Top.

Is there Crypt ? Can't see them ?
Take a look at the crypt releases and the comments about.
Take a look at A-man's tune for crypt and think different.

The demos were there at the same time in my eyes.
As i bought my c64, there was a disk with games and with demos. ;)

Hey, don't take CSDB too serious..
We need you like in the past.
We need your ideas and comments..
CSDB is a good way to hold contact to others, who really know you and your history.
2007-05-08 14:07
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Sad but true, and more are gonna follow i belive.
2007-05-08 14:10
SECRET MAN
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Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: After watching csdb and not logging in, for months I say
BYEBYE...
I deleted my profile and you could delete my account.
From today I won't give out anything anylonger.
I didn't delete my releases, if anybody will do, I don't care.

If you prefer CRYpt+WDR style and quality, now you can get it daily.
I am really fed up with allowing every shit on this database and if you call it SHIT or CRAP or lower standard than 1985
you hear only "better shit and active than being inactive".
Recracks, SEUCKs, BASIC and frozen "cracks" are allowed here.
WOW! What impressive style.

To say it clear: I dislike it if anybody adds something from me here in the future.
The most of you forum- or demosceners have no fucking clue
how the real scene worked and still the cracks were there before the demos, which many forget so easily.
Respect for the people who did anything in the past (and
I don't speak about me here) is nowhere (good example:
OSWALD, but with him I could live as he could code decent)
but only lamers pretending to be cool all day.
As already said, others say if you are elite or a legend
or not. Getting attacked caring about my part of the scene
(e.g. cracking) or holding up old values and style is boring
me to death. Even a demoscener or a guy who can't code could see what is lame crap or not.
But nobody cares, so do I.
Yeah, those ignoring and "don't feed the troll" helped really a lot. I know some people who are dead because they
did the same or they had to struggle hard to kill the people
who they should have done sth against at first place.

ByeBye...

Have fun playing those killerreleases of CRYpt, CIVITAS
and KRYNN LTD., the elite of 2007.

Gone...


True....First you helped to find lost cracks,to save the history and to remember the old times.We had a lot of fun on the US Boards,but this is not 1990.We have the year 2007.

Do you really want to loose your personality crack list?

Do you drunk to much?? Thomas??


Perff:Recovery mode on





2007-05-08 16:20
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429
I hereby pay respect to my old pal Ignorance, his steps, his opinion...

But for me this is just his BYEBYE to CSDB, he will for sure kick some ass in the future with some stuning releases. (He still has some decent versions in his pipeline :) )

For those who lose the contact to him coz he left CSDB:
I owe him a lot coz he kicked my lazy ass so fucking often :D
And most of you simply don't understand his thoughts:
In 2007 the possibilites to create decent releases are better than ever and "the retards" just flood this Database with crap!

In the first place THIS has to be understood as a TRUE STATEMENT.
2007-05-08 17:28
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Perff: you reading this?

More will follow.
2007-05-08 17:34
SECRET MAN
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Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Perff: you reading this?

More will follow.


And others will come !



2007-05-08 18:03
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Quote: And others will come !





Yeah, more retarded friends of yours, Troublemaker.
2007-05-08 18:29
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035
The behaviour of sceners never ceases to amaze me.
2007-05-08 19:18
cbmhardware
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Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 19
I think some people are overstimulated. In this scene very talented user, but there also to much aggression against "lame, retard ... I don't know" beginners.
Sure, some people earn the right response. But there is no reason to exaggerate it. Your seed is "hate" and you will earn "hate".
This is not the right way. Sometimes I'm wondering about comments from some grown guys.

The cracker-scene is dead since 1989. I think we know that. ;)

I'm only a hobby-coder and hardware-hacker. For me is no time to finish bigger productions. I'm retarded. =)
Get a right relation to your hobbies. There are more importantly things in life.

Erm, off topic but ( http://www.cbmhardware.de/1541mega8/index.html ) my latest release for the C=-Scene. No add to csdb. Only a german webpage. If anyone will translate this to English : thanks in advance.

keep cool,
Michael
2007-05-08 19:31
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
CBMHardware: your out of touch of what is discussed here.

Let me bring you up-to-date.

Lamers and beginners are acceptable. Always have been.

What is not being tolerated here is "RETARD"-sceners. Those who are _below_ lamers who do things with malicious intent. Take for example Wanderer, this guy attacked another scener called ALIH, attacking his family and friends through phonecalls.

People like him are not welcome in our scene. Similar, is Troublemaker/Secretman; who support Wanderer and create fake websites to deflect their own guilt.

For further information, read the chapters in 'Vandalism News #49' entitled "Modern Footprints" & "Retard Scene".

Also check - http://wanderer.artificial-stupidity.net
2007-05-08 19:40
SECRET MAN
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Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Jazzretard:Please remember,that you attacked Troublemaker as first and you attacked me as you said,that Troublemaker and Secret Man are the same persons.You attacked every Crypt release.I agree with cbmhardware.The scene is dead.
Every release is just for fun,so you dont need your Vandalame propaganda release charts.

Oh Forgot

Also check: http://www.c64retardscene.net/
2007-05-08 19:42
stash
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 343
what we dont need is retards like u secretpussy
2007-05-08 19:44
SECRET MAN
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Posts: 336
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2007-05-08 19:47
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153
To a degree, that seems like a hijacking of the retardscene term to suit the currently ongoing scene animosities. I remember it rather being used, some years ago, for people producing (allegedly) substandard C64 stuff just for the sake of producing and having general lack of tolerance for criticism.
2007-05-08 19:52
stash
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 343
secretwhiner i choose not to post the mails u send to me
so go back and cry to ur mom
2007-05-08 19:57
SECRET MAN
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Posts: 336
Here you can choose which CSDb users you don't wanna receive messages from.

You are currently ignoring these CSDb users:
stash_wd


2007-05-08 20:38
Street Tuff

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 88
Hey Thomas!

it's sad that you decided to leave csdb. but maybe it's better like that. i know you since the early 90s and i remember that we had good fun on some partys!

well.... people got up's and down's from time to time. still hope to see some kick ass cracks from you in the near future.

keep your head up and be ignorant to the guys you have always been ignorant to. lamers and retard sceners!

@SecretMan/Troublemaker

Message sent by: SECRET MAN on 2006-09-17 21:56:49+02
Solltest Du etwas mit der Löschung vo Crypt zu tun haben werde ich ohne Vorwarung TRSI löschen

Message sent by: SECRET MAN on 2006-09-17 23:46:26+02
Glaubst du das ich das nicht löschen kann,wenn du sachen gelocked hast?? Sei Dir man lieber nicht so sicher.

Arschloch

-why would someone delete entrys in CSDB?
-why do YOU want to delete HISTORY?
-a HISTORY that YOU have been part of as a member of RSI!

i think perff should have the balls to deactivate your account so that there is no need to feed the TROLL anymore.

!EOD
2007-05-08 20:43
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Quote: Hey Thomas!

it's sad that you decided to leave csdb. but maybe it's better like that. i know you since the early 90s and i remember that we had good fun on some partys!

well.... people got up's and down's from time to time. still hope to see some kick ass cracks from you in the near future.

keep your head up and be ignorant to the guys you have always been ignorant to. lamers and retard sceners!

@SecretMan/Troublemaker

Message sent by: SECRET MAN on 2006-09-17 21:56:49+02
Solltest Du etwas mit der Löschung vo Crypt zu tun haben werde ich ohne Vorwarung TRSI löschen

Message sent by: SECRET MAN on 2006-09-17 23:46:26+02
Glaubst du das ich das nicht löschen kann,wenn du sachen gelocked hast?? Sei Dir man lieber nicht so sicher.

Arschloch

-why would someone delete entrys in CSDB?
-why do YOU want to delete HISTORY?
-a HISTORY that YOU have been part of as a member of RSI!

i think perff should have the balls to deactivate your account so that there is no need to feed the TROLL anymore.

!EOD


Yep.

Get rid of this idiot fan of Wanderer's sociopathetic activities.

Christian: if the scene is dead, _leave it_, stop trying to destroy the fun those have in the C64 with your nonsense releases and fake websites (together with Wanderer).

This scene database is a record of scene activites, not a platform to launch retarded abuse in one-liners, spam, seuck re-releases and code-ripped hi-score tables (and going generally beyond lame).


2007-05-08 21:14
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Quoting Jazzcat
Christian: if the scene is dead, _leave it_, stop trying to destroy the fun those have in the C64 with your nonsense releases and fake websites (together with Wanderer).

This scene database is a record of scene activites, not a platform to launch retarded abuse in one-liners, spam, seuck re-releases and code-ripped hi-score tables (and going generally beyond lame).


I have to agree with Jazzcat one way or another. The CSDB is to preserve productions released through the C64 scene's history. Today is 2007, therefore it is very pointless to throw out really old games releases as new releases unless it is quality releases the way Nostalgia, Hokuto Force and Remember does (Major bugfixing, iffl-linking etc).

Maybe there should be some kind of control/moderation (regarding new releases) where the CSDB team evaluate a release from *certain* people test (On a C64 or C64 emulator) to see if it would be suitable for the CSDB before allowing on to the database I.e. something that is not completely crap. If it is something nobody would really want to see (or was used for some kind of vendetta) then it could just be ignored and deleted.

When I run the MiniGame Compo 2007 web site with another person, we evaluate releases before they go on to the Minigame Compo database. I recommend the same here as well. It is just an idea. :)
2007-05-08 21:28
SECRET MAN
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Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Quoting Jazzcat
Christian: if the scene is dead, _leave it_, stop trying to destroy the fun those have in the C64 with your nonsense releases and fake websites (together with Wanderer).

This scene database is a record of scene activites, not a platform to launch retarded abuse in one-liners, spam, seuck re-releases and code-ripped hi-score tables (and going generally beyond lame).


I have to agree with Jazzcat one way or another. The CSDB is to preserve productions released through the C64 scene's history. Today is 2007, therefore it is very pointless to throw out really old games releases as new releases unless it is quality releases the way Nostalgia, Hokuto Force and Remember does (Major bugfixing, iffl-linking etc).

Maybe there should be some kind of control/moderation (regarding new releases) where the CSDB team evaluate a release from *certain* people test (On a C64 or C64 emulator) to see if it would be suitable for the CSDB before allowing on to the database I.e. something that is not completely crap. If it is something nobody would really want to see (or was used for some kind of vendetta) then it could just be ignored and deleted.

When I run the MiniGame Compo 2007 web site with another person, we evaluate releases before they go on to the Minigame Compo database. I recommend the same here as well. It is just an idea. :)


I cant agree with you,Richard.You would loose 50 percent of your releases.One week whining

Why should someone delete or control his own productions?


Ignorance words:

ByeBye...
Have fun playing those killerreleases of CRYpt, CIVITAS
and KRYNN LTD., the elite of 2007.

2007-05-08 21:42
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Ok. fair enough :)
2007-05-08 22:40
fade
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Posts: 290
I agree with the Original Post.
2007-05-09 00:34
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 622
What a sad day. One of the best who ever was, and you still cannot give him the respect he so much deserves. This proves it more than anything that this scene has lost touch with it's roots... and that is honestly a pathetic thing. Those of you who were never part of the REAL SCENE cannot, and will not, ever understand. That is the truth, sorry.

New people are always welcomed, IDIOTS are not! (OLD OR NEW!)

You do nothing for the scene except plant the seeds of it's destruction. Is that what you truely desire?

Your never were's, never was' and never will be's. Hoe pathetic you do the things you do. To cause great pillars of the scene like Ignorance (Who has cracked nearly 1000 games, and done more in 1 year of his career than YOU WILL EVER DO EVER!) Yet you shit on him, and act as if he is a no-one like you.

What is wrong with you people. Can you not comprehend reality at all???

2007-05-09 04:08
Platoon
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Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 40
come on guys grow up !

we write 2007, and most of us are 3x something :P
how about acting your age and not behaving like some
spoiled brats ?

was a part of the danish scene a looooong time ago
was drawn to it becoz of the cool freindships that
where a part of it and not the ELITE vs LAMENESS.

if the scene was what i seems to be today i would
NEVER have even thought of beeing a part of it.

and yes its sad that The Ignorance leaves its always a
sad thing when some ELITE one time famous scener leaves
the scene (allthough i never heard of him back in 86-91)

but try and act your age instead of beeing a bunch of whiny snotty spoiled kidz :(

let the flaming begin & the attacks on me for having an oppinion and beeing inactive and not releasing ELITE stuff in 2007 :P

Best Regards

Platoon Aka The Inactive Scener / Daniax

ps. hope that The Ignorance reconsider hes dissicion the more we are the marrier :D
2007-05-09 05:45
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5022
Quote: What a sad day. One of the best who ever was, and you still cannot give him the respect he so much deserves. This proves it more than anything that this scene has lost touch with it's roots... and that is honestly a pathetic thing. Those of you who were never part of the REAL SCENE cannot, and will not, ever understand. That is the truth, sorry.

New people are always welcomed, IDIOTS are not! (OLD OR NEW!)

You do nothing for the scene except plant the seeds of it's destruction. Is that what you truely desire?

Your never were's, never was' and never will be's. Hoe pathetic you do the things you do. To cause great pillars of the scene like Ignorance (Who has cracked nearly 1000 games, and done more in 1 year of his career than YOU WILL EVER DO EVER!) Yet you shit on him, and act as if he is a no-one like you.

What is wrong with you people. Can you not comprehend reality at all???



2007-05-09 06:48
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Sometimes people just need a little something to take a big step. I don't think that the current ranting on CSDb alone is the reason why The Ignorance left, although I haven't got a clue what else there could be.

Then again, leaving with such a big message makes me think he wants us to beg him :-)
If I'd be sick of it all, I'd just leave silently...
2007-05-09 06:54
Honesty

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 117
@mace: I think he just want´s to show his reasons and his thought´s about scene.
Let it be that way and ignore the guys u dislike. Don´t leech their stuff and spare of with comments.

Maybe it is possible to add a new icon here for so called re-releases or recracks so everyone knows what is is about.

But people should use their power for creating something, not waisting their power for such shitty threats.

2007-05-09 07:14
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
@Honesty: I too regret the fact that Igno left, he was a nice chap the few times I talked to him on IRC.

But in general people overreact.
Especially when it regards the behaviour of others.
2007-05-09 07:51
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 622
SECRET MAN, Wanderer, and TWG are hardly wanting to be friends with anyone at all. Not even themselves seemingly. This is NOT childish at all, these are people who have malicious intentions twords the scene. They are a bunch of loosers who cannot stand the fact they are nothing in the scene and never were. So they just want to drag it down. And we sit around and put up with it... THAT is my point. I DO NOT and NEVER WILL understand such tolerance for this kind of obviously MAL INTENDED behavior.

I went to intros.c64.org today, and TWR is even making derogatory comments about ESI intro's made in 1985! Surely you
cannot ignore what the mighty EagleSoft has done ? Yet he feels compelled to say the graphics in the intro suck.

(lets see you do better without wiring you f***stick!)

Attacking everyone and everything, NO ONE NEEDS THIS. I don't need it, YOU don't it, surely the SCENE doesn't need it. This is nothing but stupid childish behaviour by mentally retarded and or mentally insane people.

No wonder the whole world is such sad shape!
2007-05-09 09:13
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Perff needs to take control. He is in command to do some good here and actually show some form of moderation (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).

TWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.

Is the C64 scene to wimpy to do this? No. But some moderators need to really take a stand and stop playing around.
2007-05-09 09:38
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Ignorance was hell of a good scener. I remember when the CRAP'D posse appeared from nowhere with an improved Bomb Chase. Ignorance gave me some friendly advice on how a production should be compressed correctly, when it comes to adding intros and things like that. :) He seems a friendly person in general :) So respect goes out to him.

Secondly, a way bit off topic, but I am also here to support the C64 scene database. I have found various programs (Mainly tools) by sceners, which I hope to continue uploading on to the database now and then. 10 at a time now and then, because mass uploading is too much work :) Well, I hope to add Sub Hunter (Full game) to the CSDB once it is finished and ready for release. :)

I think Jazzcat is right regarding recruiting a few more people to moderate the CSDB. I think the people who know the scene really well (or contributes a lot to the scene) should be part of the CSDB crew. That way we get less trouble and hopefully the scene can be back to normal :)

2007-05-09 10:57
The Overkiller
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Posts: 342
A Note to You
Mr. twr says also Bacchus (and I mean BACCHUS) is a lamer.... Well, take your own conclusions!
2007-05-09 12:50
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Quoting Jazzcat
Perff needs to take control. (...) (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).

I agree on both counts.

Quoting Jazzcat
TWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.

This is not feasable. Anybody can create new accounts at any time. A hostile attitude towards people will only result in an unwanted reaction. An eye for an eye and the world turns blind...

Quoting Richard
I think Jazzcat is right regarding recruiting a few more people to moderate the CSDB. I think the people who know the scene really well (or contributes a lot to the scene) should be part of the CSDB crew. That way we get less trouble and hopefully the scene can be back to normal :)

The most important features of a moderator are that he is unbiased, emotional in control of himself and honest.
The amount of contribution is irrelevant or in some cases even counter productive.

I find it a bit disturbing how terribly old fashioned and childish people stick to the importance of status. Most of us are well in their 30s and should have some better knowledge of how the world operates best. This is not by hierarchy but by cooperation.
2007-05-09 13:07
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
.. And i find it a bisturbing that CSDB allows members who harass people in real life. WHEN are you people gonna wake up and see what is going on here? Cooperation you say? Aha! That's when those people work together sending used condoms to other CSDB members, sending spam (100.000 of them) to other CSDB members, harassing friends and relatives of CSDB members (making them quit the scene) and... last but not least, Recrack.
2007-05-09 14:28
NoRi

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 24
The fact of a war in a community can be easily understood (I dont agree but who cares and I certainly dont), we are not in 1988. But seeing private life interfering in is less funny...That's an obvious proof that some of them can absolutely not make the difference between private life and the "scene" and it leads to stupidity pushed to its paroxism.
2007-05-09 14:47
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
I was aware of the malicious actions and I find it very weird.

However, petty actions like banning someone from a forum will not let the problem go away. In fact, it might make it even worse:
A) hostility provokes exactly the behaviour you DON'T want
B) the banned person comes back under another name, so you'll loose track of him

Ranting on a forum will create more reason, putting pictures online to proof harassments will create trophies.

It's like a cheap sci-fi TV show where the monster is fed by the energy of the space ship that tries to get away. In the end it strengthens the monster and crushes the good guys.

The more you struggle, the more you get strangled.
2007-05-09 15:07
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Mace: perhaps if your family and friends were harassed in real life, your views would be a lot different.

These people have malicious intent.

They should be removed. Simple. Nothing further to discuss.
2007-05-09 16:10
The Shark-INC
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Posts: 24
Mace,

I couldn't disagree more, and here's why. These sceners who cross the line and harass in real life crave an audience. If you take away that audience, they are less motivated to present their "trophies". I agree that it won't make them completely stop, but at least the rest of the scene doesn't have to deal with it on a daily basis. It also sends a message to others who consider doing such acts that they be will ostracized.

In the case of Wanderer and his supporters, they have done some really sick stuff that has caused some productive sceners to leave altogether. This is the part that where we have to join together to set some sort of minimum ethic standards otherwise the scene as a whole suffers and will lose more people.

Because of what WDR did, he was banned from several C64 sites. So WDR didn't leave the scene. The scene left him...and we're better for it. By allowing the deviants to have an audience is more like the cheap sci-fi show that you mention. Banning them is like changing the channel.

The more we join together and fight for what is right, the less people will mess with you. Conversely, if you give up and look the other way, the harassers then know that their tactics work and will continue.


The Shark
2007-05-09 16:14
SECRET MAN
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Posts: 336
Quote: Perff needs to take control. He is in command to do some good here and actually show some form of moderation (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).

TWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.

Is the C64 scene to wimpy to do this? No. But some moderators need to really take a stand and stop playing around.


Oh David.Sorry,that i have my opinion and i think its not forbidden.So i can utter this,or??
I dont need to lick ya ass like other dudes here.
First i thought,that you are normal,but that was wrong.
You are really clownish.You attacked me as first in oneliners and then in the user forum.

Here:
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 428 Yeh, how come the pathetic CRYpt releases are not there?

Le Caravage
Wanderer
BAMU/NATA/fuckhead
TROUBLEMAKER (Secretman)
TWR

all members of the RETARD scene!






2007-05-09 16:17
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Close CSDb please. ;)
2007-05-09 16:21
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11129
i agree with the shark, and we really need moderation.

not that it will ever happen, the csdb admins seem to care shit.
2007-05-09 17:23
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Secretman/Troublemaker: I attack you for your help with Wanderer against ALIH (and his family and friends) and the other sceners you attack with spam and fake website propaganda (again, together with known sociopath, WDR).

On a scene-level, I also detest a recracking, shit-releasing double member of the reborn Crypt. But this is another matter. If it was only just that, you should be allowed on this database. But due to the first point mentioned above, you should be removed from here.
2007-05-09 17:25
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 592
hey secret trouble girl why the fuck do you always hijack every single topic?
people talk shit about you and your alter ego and you still wonder why? omg wake up and open your eyes.
I sort of know this message will be followed by a "and what did you mean for the scene you're not elite you're a lamer and a retard and blah blah blah" answer, you're so predictable, but to be honest, I just don't give a flying fuck.
just like you shouldn't bother when I call you a fucking cunt.
you are.



2007-05-09 17:26
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Quote: i agree with the shark, and we really need moderation.

not that it will ever happen, the csdb admins seem to care shit.


2007-05-09 17:53
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Secretman/Troublemaker: I attack you for your help with Wanderer against ALIH (and his family and friends) and the other sceners you attack with spam and fake website propaganda (again, together with known sociopath, WDR).

On a scene-level, I also detest a recracking, shit-releasing double member of the reborn Crypt. But this is another matter. If it was only just that, you should be allowed on this database. But due to the first point mentioned above, you should be removed from here.


David: Sorry,but who is Alih? I never heard this name and i have nothing to do with this shit.You attacked me as first and your nigga stash send me thousand mail bombs.
2007-05-09 17:56
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: hey secret trouble girl why the fuck do you always hijack every single topic?
people talk shit about you and your alter ego and you still wonder why? omg wake up and open your eyes.
I sort of know this message will be followed by a "and what did you mean for the scene you're not elite you're a lamer and a retard and blah blah blah" answer, you're so predictable, but to be honest, I just don't give a flying fuck.
just like you shouldn't bother when I call you a fucking cunt.
you are.





MATT

Famed for: Contributing nothing to the scene but scrolltext.
Inserting Belgian waffles into certain anatomical body parts.
Uselessness factor: 92%
Skill Factor: 2%


2007-05-09 18:00
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 592
you sad sad little person you.
2007-05-09 18:35
stash
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 343
secretpussy: why do u still keep on trolling dont u get it no one likes u, no one wants u around.

but still u troll on just like wdr did...

and now u gonna say "who is alih never heard of him" keep on lying we all know what a retard u are anyway

yes i sent u mails.. not 1000 nor any mail bombs simply 2 words

RETARD FAGGOT and that´s coz u are that

now go cry to ur momma as the cunt u are

2007-05-09 18:43
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Troublemaker: you know who Alih is. Why not ask Wanderer if you have forgotten, your in contact with him regularly.

2007-05-09 18:55
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Troublemaker: you know who Alih is. Why not ask Wanderer if you have forgotten, your in contact with him regularly.



Im NOT Troublemaker and i dont know who alih is.I checked CSDB,but i couldnt find this name.WHO IS THIS ALIH?


Troublemaker and Secret Man online at the same time,but the same persons??




2007-05-09 19:07
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Oh, Secret Man got a new strategy advice from Wanderer; act like you don't know anything, or did anything. That didn't work the first time and wont work now either. Your time as a scene robber is over, LAMER.
2007-05-09 19:14
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Oh, Secret Man got a new strategy advice from Wanderer; act like you don't know anything, or did anything. That didn't work the first time and wont work now either. Your time as a scene robber is over, LAMER.

Thanx,that makes me really true.
2007-05-09 19:27
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Troublemaker: yeh, real hard to login twice under two nicknames.

http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/secret_mistake.jpg

2007-05-09 19:37
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Troublemaker: yeh, real hard to login twice under two nicknames.

http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/secret_mistake.jpg



I can only laugh about your theory.Its easy to copy a message and send it to an other guy.
Every person is able to do this.
2007-05-09 19:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11129
Quote:

Oh, Secret Man got a new strategy advice from Wanderer; act like you don't know anything, or did anything. That didn't work the first time and wont work now either. Your time as a scene robber is over, LAMER.
2007-05-09 22:08
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Quote: I can only laugh about your theory.Its easy to copy a message and send it to an other guy.
Every person is able to do this.


"I know noooooooooothing....."
2007-05-10 01:21
Nightlord

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 131
during the first wdr related long threads I stopped reading csdb around 1.5 years ago

since than i have looked at a random topic every 4-5 months. nothing changes... Not only more stupid threads are filling in but also many of the sceners whose opinions that i value and want to read does not write in csdb anymore.

As a result, CSDB has lost a lot of its quality in providing good, well thought, insightful written material

the scene needs diskmags more than ever now
2007-05-10 03:13
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Nightlord: exactly what I've tried to explain to Perff but he doesn't seem to understand.

I agree also with the diskmag concept. Nothing better than having a solid "scene" read with no other bullshit from the "outside" disrupting you.


Further information confirming the cooperation between cyberstalker Wanderer and retard Secretman (Troublemaker).
From efnet #c-64

| * jazzcat (WDR@69.60.251.1) has joined #c-64
| Wed 09May07 21:57:10 | <jazzcat> New pics of Davey "Crackteeth" Simmons the guy who joined the scene 10 years too late. Only at http://www.c64retardscene.net/
| Wed 09May07 21:57:12 | * jazzcat (WDR@69.60.251.1) has left #c-64


Traced to WDR's IP he uses, which is unitz.ca


2007-05-10 05:13
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5022
I second everyone who suggests we need moderation, even in the form of deleting user accounts. maybe check the lemon64 forums, the retardscene thread was closed and the user who upened it got deleted after like 8 posts. thats the way to do it. In the second line we need backups for safety against deleting fools. When thats failsafe we're free to delete all troublemaker accounts.
2007-05-10 06:40
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Quote:
during the first wdr related long threads I stopped reading csdb around 1.5 years ago

since than i have looked at a random topic every 4-5 months. nothing changes...

Did you really expect that a forum for people using 25-year-old computers would change? :-)
2007-05-10 06:53
BAR.
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
Quote: I second everyone who suggests we need moderation, even in the form of deleting user accounts. maybe check the lemon64 forums, the retardscene thread was closed and the user who upened it got deleted after like 8 posts. thats the way to do it. In the second line we need backups for safety against deleting fools. When thats failsafe we're free to delete all troublemaker accounts.

I would like to see who changed/delete entries or get informed about what happend, sometimes..

After that happend send an automatic info to the one who was the "victim" (owner of thread, owner of the info he add..)

including this:

WHEN WAS IT DELETED ?
WHO CHANGED/DELETE IT ?
WHY WAS IT DONE.. ?

If there was a mistake then you could change that via your moderator backups again.. I think here is too much you could delete or change without letting the others knowing that.
Wouldn't give more infos about what i saw..
Stupid!
2007-05-10 07:02
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
@ Baracuda: just like Wikipedia-style 'history'
2007-05-10 08:13
SECRET MAN
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336
Quote: Nightlord: exactly what I've tried to explain to Perff but he doesn't seem to understand.

I agree also with the diskmag concept. Nothing better than having a solid "scene" read with no other bullshit from the "outside" disrupting you.


Further information confirming the cooperation between cyberstalker Wanderer and retard Secretman (Troublemaker).
From efnet #c-64

| * jazzcat (WDR@69.60.251.1) has joined #c-64
| Wed 09May07 21:57:10 | <jazzcat> New pics of Davey "Crackteeth" Simmons the guy who joined the scene 10 years too late. Only at http://www.c64retardscene.net/
| Wed 09May07 21:57:12 | * jazzcat (WDR@69.60.251.1) has left #c-64


Traced to WDR's IP he uses, which is unitz.ca




I think,that i must believe WDR.

You attacked me as first.Do you really want a war with me,too?

Im 100% not Troublemaker.Good that other people and friends know this.And i think its possible to check my IP.


David:You are really an asshole !
2007-05-10 08:16
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1665
Ok. I think we should stop here!
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