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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055 |
THE 64
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-64-computer-and-handheld..
I don't suppose anyone know who the "world class software and hardware engineer" is, or the "technical team from around the world"? The page fails to mention any names besides Darren Melbourne. |
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Dr.j
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276 |
what is the thing Handheld console?..its only me who don't see any logical connection between reloaded c64 and Console. i think handheld are a way out of fashion and why ppl who use new "old" c64 will use also the Console. and like other who wrote earlier: kind hard to see the specs of the product. if its 100% hardware of the c64 (of course expect the desing of the k-board) so its totally awesomeness but if its software who running emulation shit , so i don't care for this project. for me (if the latter is correct) its like buying 10 years old PC and run emulator on it. its still hard to guess what is going here but must admit the campaign looks very good and a selling one |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034 |
"Coming ASAP!"
I wonder why people send money before they actually get more relevant info (like, who is behind the actual engineering) or key technical details ;-)
And wow... thanx to this I have discovered relevant hardware-geek-C64 people that are actually using twitter. Nice!! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034 |
Thinking out loud about...
Ok so if it was based on C64 reloaded (it works and it's teted) + sid emulation in chip (like swinsid, which is not great, but it's a proof that something like that can be done. Then you still need good quality keyboard and some connectors, plastic case.. and putting everything to together. Well..doesn't sound totally bad to me.
And if this one doesn't plan to go this way, I'm sure, sooner or later someone will try to do it proper way (with few relevant enhancements here or there)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
the supposed price of the product alone tells you that its NOT going to be anything like the c64reloaded - you can hardly make a case, or even a custom keyboard for that kind of money (we have looked into it, its crazy expensive) |
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Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254 |
Not to mention it being almost perpetually out of stock. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034 |
Quote: the supposed price of the product alone tells you that its NOT going to be anything like the c64reloaded - you can hardly make a case, or even a custom keyboard for that kind of money (we have looked into it, its crazy expensive)
I thought so. |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714 |
They release some specs on their IGG page.Quote:
"Technical Specifications
The specifications for THE 64 are not fixed at this point in time - we will be engaging with the community and customers over the coming months to deliver the best product we can! We want to hear from you guys what you want us to add!
Specifications that are fixed are:
Accurate recreation of the classic Commodore 64.
HDMI video and audio output.
We are considering composite video in addition to HDMI, for use on classic televisions.
Multiple SIDs for stereo sound (6581 or 8580)
New high-capacity (512MB+) writable cartridge support, with an adapter interface available later to provide classic cartridge compatibility.
Support for current storage media (for example SD cards), with emulation of the 1541.
Multiple joystick support for multi-player games.
Support for many of the popular emulator game file formats.
Firmware upgradable to support additional features and machines in the future (DTV64 features, etc.)
Hopefully the possibility to connect original peripherals."
It seems to imply hardware level emulation rather than a CPU-based emulation but it's hard to tell.
Maybe it's a modified Minimig style board? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
i very much doubt its an fpga based thing (RE: pricetag - and for HDMI you need something more powerful than the minimig, meaning more expensive too) |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714 |
Quote: i very much doubt its an fpga based thing (RE: pricetag - and for HDMI you need something more powerful than the minimig, meaning more expensive too)
It all depends on the volume they are expecting. If not a minimig, it could be a Xilinx Zynq or an Altera Cyclone V SOC variant perhaps. Not too expensive compared to the case and keyboard I would imagine.
$150k worth of sales isn't that much though. They'll have to count in a lot more sales to make it float.
If they can pull it off before December all depends who is behind it and if they have assessed the complexity of the task correctly.
Awaiting more details... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
another thing that makes me very sceptic about it being FPGA - what core is it? making a halfway compatible core is a _LOT_ of work afterall (it takes many years). you can hardly make the hardware for those 150k, but pay a team of developers to work for, lets say a year? no way. |
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